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Windows 8 is depressing PC sales in record numbers

  1. #51


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    Windows 8.1 'Ultimate' RTM 64 bit (Pro/WMC).


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Ray8 - The System Restore does not work on at least one of my systems. Does not even come up. But I was trying to start it through the Troubleshooting area, not from the main GUI.
    I've been trying to run it from the normal dialogue box and it simply does not work. There's still some debate as to whether this is an issue with dual boot systems or Windows 8 itself. Windows 8 has introduced some new restore features and the traditional System Restore has been problematic for many. System Restore is one of the most useful features Windows has ever had and I'd hate for it to be lost with future versions.

    I don't dual-boot, Ray, and don't have UEFI. My System Restore seems to work fine.
    It lets me create my own restore points and will restore from them without a problem.
    In fact, I only put this to the test the other day while testing a program. It's always
    restored ok from its own restore points.

    Wenda.

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  2. #52


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    I guess it could then be just a dual boot issue.
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  3. #53


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Really? The "Score" tells it all, on Windows 7, my score is 3 or less, on Windows 8, its at least 3.4 - Based on the Graphics cards I use, which are the slowest things on the system. But there is marked improvement with all my scores, not just graphics.
    The WEI scores on Windows 7 is on a scale of 1 to 7.9 the WEI scores on Windows 8 is on a scale of 1 to 9.9 you cannot compare the two because they are on different scales. M$ pulling a fast one.
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  4. #54


    Posts : 37
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    M$ pulling a fast one.
    Not really. Just updating it for current hardware. It is a relative score, you know. What would be the point in "pulling a fast one" on this matter? How would it help Microsoft one bit?
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  5. #55


    Ohio
    Posts : 473
    Windows 8 Pro


    Yes, PC sales are plummeting. Sales are plummeting on otherthings as well. I believe that if a person needs a PC he's/she's going to buyone. I honestly do not think that just because they now come with Windows 8installed will keep the person from purchasing a PC. But that is only anopinion. Who really knows for sure why things happen the way they do? There aremore questions in this world than there are answers.
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  6. #56


    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    M$ pulling a fast one.
    Not really. Just updating it for current hardware. It is a relative score, you know. What would be the point in "pulling a fast one" on this matter? How would it help Microsoft one bit?
    By making you think your hardware is faster when it is NOT.
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  7. #57


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    M$ pulling a fast one.
    Not really. Just updating it for current hardware. It is a relative score, you know. What would be the point in "pulling a fast one" on this matter? How would it help Microsoft one bit?
    By making you think your hardware is faster when it is NOT.
    Sort of had the opposite effect for me. While my system came close to max'ing out the WEI under 7, it's reported a little higher under Win 8. But it is nowhere near the Win8 maximum of 9.9. Makes me wonder what sort of hardware would be required to approach that. Dual 8 core Xeons? A couple of GTX Titans in SLI? PCI-E SSDs?

    I suppose that MS might be playing tricks, that would work on those savvy enough to know that WEI exists, but dim enough to believe that WEI numbers can be compared across different OSes.
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  8. #58


    Posts : 37
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    M$ pulling a fast one.
    Not really. Just updating it for current hardware. It is a relative score, you know. What would be the point in "pulling a fast one" on this matter? How would it help Microsoft one bit?
    By making you think your hardware is faster when it is NOT.
    You do know they also changed it from Vista to 7, and it went the opposite direction, right? Why would they care about people's perception of their hardware? If they're colluding with hardware companies, they'd want them to think it was slower, not faster. Quit looking for conspiracies and think about what you're saying.
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  9. #59


    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    Looking at Best Buy and they have more PC's with Windows 7 then Windows 8. So its not the OS that is stopping sales its the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Finally the economic situation puts people off buying what is normally regarded as a luxury product -- although we are beginning to turn the corner on this one (at last).

    You can forget rubbish reports from people like IDC and especially Gartner -- those people are just JUNK.

    Windows 8 / Windows 7 / whatever OS really has very little to do directly with PC sales (or lack of them).
    Right on, guys. :thumbup: It's not due to the OS IMO. It has a lot to do with the economy. Although showing signs of improvement as of late as Jimbo stated, people are afraid to spend their money. Sales in all sectors are still down, especially on big items. When unemployment lowers as we've seen here in the States then people will ease up on their wallets for they'll feel more secure. Unemployment in Europe continues to be high as I understand it. Not sure on the rest of the world.

    If anything, 8 is slowing sales because it does run better on older hardware. Personally if 8 didn't come along, I'd be out buying a new desktop PC this year for I was thinking on that order, but it runs much faster and more stable than 7 on my older Acer, so no need to now. I plan on buying a mobile hybrid instead.

    We were all born with a common problem no matter what income level we're at -> Cash flow. Unemployment, fear of spending, investing, or borrowing money is still too high. Throw the high cost of energy into the factor also.

    Let's hope these signs of recovery continue.
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  10. #60


    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    Quit looking for conspiracies and think about what you're saying.
    M$ had a finding of fact in a court of law on abusing there monopoly so nothing new here. There judgment ended in 2013.
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