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  1. #11


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    I use "downdate" when I refer to update, I never liked "automatic updates". So when I do do em, I want to have total control over which ones I choose, I only choose the ones that will affect my particular system. I've never updated any of my Windows 7 machines to service pack 1, it's not that much of a service pack, compared to Vista SP1 which was necessary. This will probably screw me when they stop supporting Windows 7 with no SP's - When THAT happens, I'll finally update. I always try to keep my operating systems more or less exactly how they were when I installed it, so that I can do in-place installs.

    My Windows 7 disks are all original,. with no SP, so I keep it that way mostly, only allowing a few updates that are necessary.

    This also causes me problems when I have to repair my one computer with XP, because my install disk for that is SP2, but on that system I prefer SP3 so I can install Office 2010. When I need to repair that system, I have to uninstall SP3 and then reinstall it after the in place install is finished.

    This system here, started out as Windows XP... I've updated it through Vista and 7 and now 8. I've got stuff running on here that I've had for years, still works great.

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  2. #12


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    That's a tad odd to me. I prefer to keep my software up to date, as there are usually not many reasons not to. Basically, it's more good than bad, that is unless if an update screws something up. OK, I see that, but having gone from Windows 7 to SP1 and ALL the way to Windows 8, I haven't had issues due to updates.
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  3. #13


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    This will probably screw me when they stop supporting Windows 7 with no SP's - When THAT happens, I'll finally update.
    Erm... that just happened, earlier this week on 9th April
    Windows 7 RTM End Of Support Is Right Around The Corner
    Windows 7 RTM (with no service pack) will no longer be supported as of April 9th, 2013
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  4. #14


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    That's a tad odd to me. I prefer to keep my software up to date, as there are usually not many reasons not to. Basically, it's more good than bad, that is unless if an update screws something up. OK, I see that, but having gone from Windows 7 to SP1 and ALL the way to Windows 8, I haven't had issues due to updates.
    Yah I know, but I prefer to do all of my own security, I don't think it is on Microsoft to give me a "security downdate this" or that. *I* protect my system, besides, if Anonymous wanted in to my system, I'm sure they could do it regardless of security patches, and they are the only ones I am worried about doing that. I rely on my router and a good firewall program to keep nosy people out. It's like this, if *I* can't hack my own computer remotely, then the usual pimply-faced hackers can't do it, and I'm sure they have tried, I see evidence in my firewall log.

    I do get all of ther updates that say "compatibility" and "reliability" if they are appropriate for my system. I don't just install the updates, I read em up and down first and make sure its somethig I want.
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  5. #15


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    This will probably screw me when they stop supporting Windows 7 with no SP's - When THAT happens, I'll finally update.
    Erm... that just happened, earlier this week on 9th April
    Windows 7 RTM End Of Support Is Right Around The Corner
    Windows 7 RTM (with no service pack) will no longer be supported as of April 9th, 2013

    This is why I have also saved all updates that were important, separately. But it was odd fdor Microsoft to end Windows 7 no SP before Windows XP. I have some Windows XP SP2 installs, where the download manager still works (windowsupdate.com) - Because those systems were activated abd updated long before they stopped supporting SP2. But SP3, you can install new right now, and get updates. Why would they do that, but I suppose it's for hospital and government institutions that still use it.
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  6. #16


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    I just had a helluva time with a network I maintain. It's a Windows 2003 server station feeding two XP machines and one Windows 7 Ultimate machine. The server serves up an informational database to the workstations. Oi Vey! This is a circumstance where I may upgrade the whole thing to Windows 8, if I can set up a Windows 8 Server the same way I set it up for Windows 2003 Server.

    It's mostly serving Microsoft MDB databases across the network, the client program reads the MDB file, makes changes in the Tables, and then updates the database. It's a bad system, because the database file becomes bloated. I;ve been maintaining this system since I installed it in 2002, so it's seen a LOT of changes.

    I wonder if Windows 2003 can serve to Windows 8? It seems to work with Windows 7. Doh, it does work.

    The problem I had today was that the on the server machine, the Computer Browser service fails and locks up the whole network. So I told it to keep restarting it.

    On these machines, I do install all of the updates. But I always look at it, soon they will stop supporting the OS's, so I need to be able to fix them even if there is no support from MS, that's why I keep a library of every important update. I do have clients where there is no internet, they just use a local network. That's a pain, but I have to carry all the tools with me to fix them out in the field. Ive got a 100% success rate with field repairs- that's since 2001.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    It's mostly serving Microsoft MDB databases across the network
    Microsoft Access databases and the word "network" in the same sentence are never a great combination I'm afraid.
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  8. #18


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    You are absolutely CORRECT! But it's how the program was designed, so we're stuck with it. The newer versions use SQL. And I already found out, the older databases cannot be migrated to the newer format. Sucks.
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