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Windows 8 Gains More Users as Windows 8.1 Launch Nears

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    Windows 8 Gains More Users as Windows 8.1 Launch Nears


    Windows 8 may not be the most successful Windows version ever released by Microsoft, but the operating system is slowly increasing its market share, especially thanks to the upcoming launch of Windows 8.1.
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    Funny they mention people want better stability and more performance over 8 with 8.1. I'll be frank, I don't recall a single naysayer who ever complained about either of those two items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Funny they mention people want better stability and more performance over 8 with 8.1. I'll be frank, I don't recall a single naysayer who ever complained about either of those two items.
    Agree. Seems an odd comment since these are two of it's stronger points.
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    I'd like to see the ability to launch windowed apps(or fullscreen if you prefer that) from desktop icons.

    And when you close or suspend said apps that you launched from the desktop, it drops you back to the desktop. The 'Start Screen' can be for Surface Mini, or people who actually prefer that method of launching. Simply make it an option for workstations. That way I can simply have a folder for 'Apps' that I may want to run.

    But if I want, I can select the option and never, ever leave the desktop.

    Why they treat RT apps any different from applications that run from the desktop, when not working on tablets, is baffling to me. In essence, the desktop should have all the functionality of the Start Screen, with the option available to never leave it if on a workstation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisa View Post
    And when you close or suspend said apps that you launched from the desktop, it drops you back to the desktop.
    Yes, Yes, Yes....x 1000. It pisses me off when i am on the classic desktop, and I open a PDF or something and it fires up the built-in viewer and then when I close that viewer by dragging it to the bottom, Windows 8 leaves me on the Start Screen. Dammit, why in the world would I want to be there, take me back to where i was. Seems obvious.
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    Chrisa
    In essence, the desktop should have all the functionality of the Start Screen, with the option available to never leave it if on a workstation.
    Do you mean the desktop should have all the functionality it already has in 7 etc - with the added ability to run "apps" from there if desired?

    I think that is what huge numbers have been saying all along.

    If MS had done that in the first place, then 8 sales would not be as dismal as they are now.

    They didn't, because their aim is to push the phone idea.

    More revenue and control for MS , much worse for the users.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Chrisa
    In essence, the desktop should have all the functionality of the Start Screen, with the option available to never leave it if on a workstation.
    Do you mean the desktop should have all the functionality it already has in 7 etc - with the added ability to run "apps" from there if desired?
    All the functionality in *8* - with the added ability to run "apps" from the desktop if desired. The 'Start Screen' isn't bad, and is ideal for some devices, but you should have the option not to use it and use the desktop to drive the interface instead. I also wouldn't mind if they simply provide the option to use the Start Button. Simply add the option as a checkbox to the properties of the taskbar /shrug. If you don't want to use it, turn it off. More customization, based on a user's need, isn't a bad thing.

    And you can always kick to the start screen from the charms menu, if thats your cup of tea. All this is saying that nothing in 8 is really bad, all the new stuff can just be streamlined a lot better.
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    you should have the option not to use it and use the desktop to drive the interface instead
    Defeats the object.

    MS want to push people to use the mobile interface as much as possible. That is the way they want to make the users go. That is the way MS will gain more revenue and control.

    That is why they removed boot to desktop and the start menu.
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    ModernMix by Stardock 'nuff said. Best $5 I've spent in the past year, now if I could just get a better selection of worthwhile Win8 Apps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    you should have the option not to use it and use the desktop to drive the interface instead
    Defeats the object.

    MS want to push people to use the mobile interface as much as possible. That is the way they want to make the users go. That is the way MS will gain more revenue and control.
    Doesn't seem to be working, now does it? All your statements were fine before Windows 8 release and before being 6 months in, and having actual sales data. They can *want* to do it this way all they want, if the customers vote with their money and refuse to buy-in, they need to change course. Their objective is first and foremost to make money, and screwing around with a bad idea not only costs them money, but time. Time in which the competition IS selling things people want to buy. The bad idea being forcing the user to bounce back and forth between desktop and tile world, the tile world is not a bad idea in and of itself, its actually a pretty good idea for mobile devices, of which the desktop is *NOT* a mobile device.

    There is simply no reason they can't extend the desktop to give it the ability to drive and manage the apps in its own way. Once again, TileWorld is equally valid, and a click off the charms menu away, and would be optimal for smaller devices. But if you want to go desktop, you should be able to leave TileWorld behind and simply run the apps as if they were applications.
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