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Windows 8′s market share finally surpasses desktop Linux

  1. #31


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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    If you really want to be safe use a Live Linux CD/DVD (assuming you have checked it for rogue items). Nothing is going to get (permanently) written to the OS if you use a CD/DVD ROM.
    "Nasties" could get into your RAM though.
    I always thought this was a great idea. Running the OS off of a CD/DVD with no disk eliminates evidence once the machine is turned off. Any internet activity can still be traced by authority figures unfortunately.
    One of the downsides was that all configurations were lost when the pc was turned off. (ram only).
    That was one of the features I always liked about Linux was that you could run the OS off of a CD/DVD.

    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    Why would somebody not want to use Metro Internet Explorer for online banking, a new shopping facebook etc. If it's safer than the desktop Internet Explorer?
    Maybe because of its upside-down layout?
    Probably not what you are referring to but anyway...
    Well, IMO, my preference was always to use a browser that had the option to put the address bar at the bottom of the screen. Opera and metro IE, probably others have that option as well as the internet explorer address toolbar on the desktop taskbar.

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  2. #32


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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    Personal Preference


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Probably not what you are referring to but anyway...
    Well, IMO, my preference was always to use a browser that had the option to put the address bar at the bottom of the screen. Opera and metro IE, probably others have that option as well as the internet explorer address toolbar on the desktop taskbar.
    Actually I was.

    I prefer all of my program controls and other info (e.g. address bar) at the top.
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  3. #33


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    [QUOTE=Fredledingue;218923]Coke, just a question.... how do you right-click with your finger?
    QUOTE]
    I hope this isn't a real question?.... Because it REALLY makes you look like a touch noob.

    Press and hold on a right clickable item for about two seconds.
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  4. #34


    Australia
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    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    [QUOTE=whs;218987]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    People who would like to be informed, would do well to have a look at the source: Market share for mobile, browsers, operating systems and search engines | NetMarketShare.

    I guess Windows 8 is buried somewhere in 'Other'.
    Brilliant whs! Says it all!

    Pity cos the engine in W8 works fine ... sorry we're putting your life at risk with the steering wheel and brakes now controlled by a selection ribbon on the dashboard.
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  5. #35


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    If you really want to be safe use a Live Linux CD/DVD (assuming you have checked it for rogue items). Nothing is going to get (permanently) written to the OS if you use a CD/DVD ROM.
    "Nasties" could get into your RAM though.
    I always thought this was a great idea. Running the OS off of a CD/DVD with no disk eliminates evidence once the machine is turned off. Any internet activity can still be traced by authority figures unfortunately.
    One of the downsides was that all configurations were lost when the pc was turned off. (ram only).
    That was one of the features I always liked about Linux was that you could run the OS off of a CD/DVD.

    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    Why would somebody not want to use Metro Internet Explorer for online banking, a new shopping facebook etc. If it's safer than the desktop Internet Explorer?
    Maybe because of its upside-down layout?
    Probably not what you are referring to but anyway...
    Well, IMO, my preference was always to use a browser that had the option to put the address bar at the bottom of the screen. Opera and metro IE, probably others have that option as well as the internet explorer address toolbar on the desktop taskbar.
    Hi there
    You CAN do this easily in Windows 8 enterprise with "Windows to Go". Simply boot from the external device and remove it after your session. You don't even NEED an HDD in the computer to run Windows to Go.

    You Can also do it to a limited extent (a bit harder to set up but can be done) in W7 and non enterprise versions of W8. Create a Virtual Hard drive (on say a USB disk), mount and boot it and then you are running the OS from the VHD. (Note this is NOT a Virtual machine running under HYPER-V / VMWARE / VBOX but a full windows system running from the mounted VHD).

    Again after your session ends simply remove the device containing the VHD. To make this 100% undetectable you'll need to install something like GRUB on the external device and from GRUB mount and run the Windows VHD.

    However Internet accesses are a bit more tricky to hide -- the only easy way is via the use of anonymous proxies - and you want these also to return random IP addresses to the "Logging Server" otherwise the use of a fixed IP address would surely show up in the server logs by any curious admin.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #36


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    Can't write to ROM


    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    I tried Ubuntu and been a loyal Windows fan since. Maybe Linux is easier.
    The point is that you can't write to a Live CD/DVD (ROM) disc (so malware can't either).

    It doesn't have to be Ubuntu either.

    Firefox is no harder to use in Linux, than it is in Windows

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    You CAN do this easily in Windows 8 enterprise with "Windows to Go". Simply boot from the external device and remove it after your session. You don't even NEED an HDD in the computer to run Windows to Go.
    If you use a USB stick, malware can be written to it (same with external HDDs).

    Unless you set your VMs to "Read-only", then malware can be written to them.
    Obviously you could discard them after use and create a new copy from your backup (or snapshot).
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  7. #37


    Posts : 37
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    Why would somebody not want to use Metro Internet Explorer for online banking, a new shopping facebook etc. If it's safer than the desktop Internet Explorer?
    Maybe because of its upside-down layout?

    If you really want to be safe use a Live Linux CD/DVD (assuming you have checked it for rogue items).
    Nothing is going to get (permanently) written to the OS if you use a CD/DVD ROM.

    "Nasties" could get into your RAM though.

    Obviously you shouldn't surf the Internet before you visit the Bank.
    Once I read about Metro IE being more secure I had 2 options.
    1. Learn to work with the upside down program for security or
    2. Forsake security for right side up familiarity.


    once I found location of controls the upside down was no problem. I adapt easy I guess.

    I tried Ubuntu and been a loyal Windows fan since. Maybe Linux is easier.[/QUOTE]

    If you load desktop IE and go to advanced settings, you can enable "Enhanced Protected Mode" which makes it just as secure as Metro IE, running the 64 bit version, and don't have to deal with Metro IE's stupidness, like no tabs, etc. That's how I run it, and it seems to be working out pretty well.
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  8. #38


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    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    .....and don't have to deal with Metro IE's stupidness, like no tabs, etc.
    No Tabs? (Win + Z)

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  9. #39


    Posts : 37
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    .....and don't have to deal with Metro IE's stupidness, like no tabs, etc.
    No Tabs? (Win + Z)

    Click image for larger version
    Well I guess I got that one wrong. Either way, still really don't care for the metro interface, and if there are others who don't like it either, and only use it out of perceived necessity, I'm going to show them that they don't have to.

    Windows 8 is great, way better than 7. But Metro's still got some work ahead of it. It may be the future, but it definitely isn't the present.
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  10. #40


    Newport, South Wales, UK
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu


    Oh dear, another " change windows 8 or I'm taking my ball home" thread
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