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Windows 8.1 Coming in June

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    Hi there
    W8 is fine for consumers - businesses don't upgrade / apply service packs every few months -- a load of them are still doing very nicely on XP. However businesses can stay with W7 for many years yet -- lets face it everybody has a go about saying how useless W8 is for business -- maybe true may not be -- but really again in a business there are VERY FEW applications being run -- and these are stable --often YEARS between releases --I'll bet there's a HUGE load of businesses who STILL have OFFICE 2003 on their networks.

    There's often a Back end application or two say like an ERP product like SAP which takes often YEARS to upgrade to a new release or a few HR / payroll / AP / AR /Purchasing types of stuff -- all relatively stable.

    W8 doesn't seem to be designed as a business OS from the outset -- maybe some businesses can make use of it but probably most won't -- but what they will have to do is ensure that W8 clients (people's private laptops / tablets) can connect and run applications on their servers. Metro is also really a NO NO for typical business applications as well so I can't see corporate servers and laptops adopting W8 in its present form and they don't need to for several years yet - if ever.

    Monitors will become larger and larger -- even 60 inch ones are affordable (to some now -- and not only lottery winners) and I think that even the most biased metro supporter will agree that having to work with fixed sized windows on this type of device is purely idiotic -- and remember there are much larger monitors in the offing as resolution becomes ever more decent -- even full 1080p HD is beginning to look a tad old hat these days.

    Businesses have contracts with Ms so W7 will certainly be around for years yet -- I don't think Ms is too worried about the corporate market just yet --it needs to get the mobile OS sorted out first -- and then it can when it sees fit look at what the corporate sector needs. There's no way Apple is going to make inroads into typical businesses --apart from the publishing sector which is about their only major business area.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Enterprises do not like implementing service packs without lots of testing first. If Microsoft intends to rolls out what are effectively service packs frequently through the year, enterprise IT departments will not be happy.

    That said, there will most likely be very few, if any, enterprises with Windows 8 installed for many, many, years to come.
    They can always skip 1-2 Blue-like updates..
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrShowdown View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Enterprises do not like implementing service packs without lots of testing first. If Microsoft intends to rolls out what are effectively service packs frequently through the year, enterprise IT departments will not be happy.

    That said, there will most likely be very few, if any, enterprises with Windows 8 installed for many, many, years to come.
    They can always skip 1-2 Blue-like updates..
    I think it also depends on the cost.
    So far so good, i'm curious on what fixes and additions 8.1 brings.
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    The changes look like improvements too me and a step in the right direction. Maybe they are listening?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Enterprises do not like implementing service packs without lots of testing first. If Microsoft intends to rolls out what are effectively service packs frequently through the year, enterprise IT departments will not be happy.

    That said, there will most likely be very few, if any, enterprises with Windows 8 installed for many, many, years to come.
    This would be an issue if Windows 8 had a large uptake of the enterprise, which it does not have. We OBVIOUSLY know that the enterprise isn't going to be rolling out 8 any time soon...
    That, in itself, is going to be a problem. Will Windows 8 be enterprise friendly?
    Time will tell because six months isn't long enough to see if the enterprise will adopt it. Windows 7, yes. Most enterprises have done that already, some have planned that already and already deploying it. If the past says anything, it will take a decade for any new OS to get adopted. More likely than not, it will be a Windows 7/8 situation where Windows 8 PCs are along side Windows 7 PCs, those newer ones will obviously be tablet PCs or touch enabled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    This would be an issue if Windows 8 had a large uptake of the enterprise, which it does not have. We OBVIOUSLY know that the enterprise isn't going to be rolling out 8 any time soon...
    And this just means it's not going to be getting better anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    This would be an issue if Windows 8 had a large uptake of the enterprise, which it does not have. We OBVIOUSLY know that the enterprise isn't going to be rolling out 8 any time soon...
    And this just means it's not going to be getting better anytime soon.
    It'll get better. I'm no IT professional, but an OS, for starters, that runs across multiple devices in conjunction with Windows phone 8 has got to make your job easier. Yes? Of course that's if a company buys all MS compatible devices. Yes?

    What about all the additions to 8 that Vlad has mentioned? Don't forget Windows to go. What additional features will there be by 9?

    What about custom tailored apps specific to a business that I've been hearing about?

    After reading various views in posts for the past 6 months and about the changes we've been seeing in Blue, I've reached a conclusion that 8 is just the crust of the pie, but a step in the correct direction. A direction MS NEEDED to take to stay in the game. Bottom line -> Windows 8 = Diversification for them in a lot of ways.

    Question: I know a server OS is specific to it's tasks. Can an OS be a server and an OS at the same time? Multi-functional I guess is what I'm getting at.
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    It it comes down to people saying "How Bad Windows 8 Is" - I don't think Windows 8 is bad. I just think Metro is bad. I got no problems with the Windows 8 Desktop, I'm quite pleased with it. Heh.
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    What i meant was that IT is slow to roll something out until it's had some time and has proven itself. We won't hardly have been given time on 8, before Blue is out. This means IT will again be waiting for Blue to prove itself. IT isn't going to adopt anything on a large scale anytime soon if we are going to be constantly changing. That's why I said things might not be getting better for 8 from the IT front.
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