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Windows 8 ekes out 3.2 percent of desktop OS market

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    A good article on why data isn't always reliable:

    Former Wired editor-in-chief Chris Anderson embraced this idea in his comment, "with enough data, the numbers speak for themselves." But can big data really deliver on that promise? Can numbers actually speak for themselves?

    Sadly, they can't. Data and data sets are not objective; they are creations of human design. We give numbers their voice, draw inferences from them, and define their meaning through our interpretations. Hidden biases in both the collection and analysis stages present considerable risks, and are as important to the big-data equation as the numbers themselves.
    The Hidden Biases in Big Data - Kate Crawford - Harvard Business Review

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    No, it's pretty hard to compare vista's uptake to 8's. It's not the same time period, not the same PC type, not the same market scenario, and not the same tech scenario. Back in vista's day, we had Windows Mobile, and the iphone barely was released. The desktop PC was the reigning king of the PC, laptops were emerging as the form factor of choice, and the Windows OS itself was shite. It wasn't just because of third party issues, but it was genuinely a half-cooked, Windows Server modded version of Windows with glass and shininess. The economy was one that people weren't worried so much about job security, low wages, and potentially losing their money. At that time, it was the height of the housing market.

    Move onto to Windows 8, Windows Phone 8 has been released, the iphone is the top most used smartphone platform out there, "app" is a word and is overly concerned about as ios and android rely on those third party apps for a decent experience, the desktop PC has been considered dead and only really for the technologically enabled, gamers, enterprise, and people that need a lot of power. The laptop form factor is the de facto standard of the PC, the tablet form factor is predicted to emerge soon as the form factor of choice in a couple of years. The Windows operating system itself is a matured kernel of vista, runs better than xp or 7 (some will debate this) and is the most controversial version since 95. The economy is one where people are worried about debt and paying it off, not enough jobs, not enough qualifications, not enough well paying jobs at least. The market in the US at least is slowly picking up something. Also, the PC's that people bought four years ago is just fine enough to run Windows 8, 9, and/or 10 without issue as the hardware standards were raised due to vista, with Microsoft committed to make Windows EVEN more efficient as we're seeing with the Blue leak.

    Windows vista and 8 aren't even close comparisons to each other, xp and 8 might be a better comparison as the economy back then was slowing down due to the internet bubble and 9/11. Shoot, xp even started this whole "tablet PC/tablet computing" wave...
    If anything, it is unfair for Vista to be compared to Windows 8 because the assumption should be that Windows 8 will of course out perform Vista in sales.

    Windows 8 is EASY to get into. The price is lower and you can pick it up for any flavor of computer you use. You can get it on tablets, convertibles, laptops, desktops. No one is excluded. You can buy into Windows 8 with the device you use. It is more accessible than any other recent Windows OS. It says a lot when you see the sales numbers are lower than Vista when the availability and compatibility is greater for Windows 8.
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    It says people aren't exactly rushing out to get it.

    Gradually, they will have to if they need a new lappie. There is nothing else except for the very few geeks or well off - everyone else gets what MS gives them.

    They don't appear to be very keen.
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    Windows 8 has a hard uphill fight, but the market is so fickled. Look at the new mobile phone numbers: Android up 13%, iOS down 7%, BlackBerry down 81% … and Windows Phone up a massive 52% | VentureBeat MS is finally making headway after how many years?

    IMO, it will be Windows 9 before you see strong market share growth for the new OS direction, but even then, Windows 7 will be a dominate player. Just look at how long XP has lasted.
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    You can also read the numbers like that:

    iOS down 3.5%
    Android up 4.8%
    Windows up 1.4%
    And the big looser is RIM

    I really fail to see what's 'massive' about 1.4% for Windows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Compare that to Vista or Windows 7 after 4 months.

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    This is totally normal, now that you think of it.
    Since the release cycle has changed the comparison is not honest anymore.

    If they changed the OS production cycle and now the systems roll out faster (each year or two) then the scores they get will also be lower: people will have to jump from one to another faster, some will, some not and more user groups will split up. There will always rise new die hard fans of some specific OS that keep it (not to mention: if it wasn't cheap why ditch it?). What I mean with the users: for example Win7 eats the score of Xp (were not looking at Vista small score) so Win7 had a head-start of 3 years to do that, but Win8 will only get one year head-start to the next version (if the release cycle is faster) and it already has market share issues + the tablet mess-up.

    Also what we need to add:
    Vista made a bad reputation and so Win7 got all attention and was seen as a savior.
    But now, what can be better than the savior itself? Nada, after a good release (Win7) people stick to it... Win8 comes too early as well. Between Vista and XP was a long time but since Vista isn't too spectacular for people you'll have to consider the (waiting) gap between XP and 7 (seen as two great releases) which is a long one. So as long as 7 wears it well, 8 will have it's low score and low ascent.

    There will be an adaptation period for people to the new release cycle MS is doing. (just like adapting to new climate... go live on Antarctica or on Mars...)
    Consider Win8 as an icebreaker that has its risks and that crashes into big chunks of ice creating a path for the ones (OSes) following.
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    LOL, it will be one of those ice breakers that got stuck north of Siberia and is rotting away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    LOL, it will be one of those ice breakers that got stuck north of Siberia and is rotting away.
    Well sometimes the ice is very thick, especially north of Siberia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmeigs View Post
    Windows 8 has a hard uphill fight, but the market is so fickled. Look at the new mobile phone numbers: Android up 13%, iOS down 7%, BlackBerry down 81% … and Windows Phone up a massive 52% | VentureBeat MS is finally making headway after how many years?

    IMO, it will be Windows 9 before you see strong market share growth for the new OS direction, but even then, Windows 7 will be a dominate player. Just look at how long XP has lasted.
    52% of stuff all is still stuff all.

    Windows XP will still be in high numbers by the time Windows 9 comes out.
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    Blackberry needs to die, it's just like a sick puppy that no one wants to touch and does nothing. EVERYONE and their analyst has predicated year after year that Blackberry will finally go bankrupt and/or die. It NEVER does. Goes to show some people's analytical power and shows Blackberry can't die even though it really should just get bought out or absorbed.
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