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Windows 8 ekes out 3.2 percent of desktop OS market

  1. #21


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    We're in the process of buying new computers at my office and are more or less going with Windows 8 on them right from Dell. This gives us the OEM license, it's the same price as Windows 7 and since we are using laptops, the faster bootups and such of Windows 8 are very welcome to the end users.

    I end up doing a 15 minute training session with those I deploy Windows 8 too. I've also found a few YouTube videos on how to use Windows 8 that I make them watch before I will answer any additional questions.
    I would also ask here on Eight Forums about what should be learned first, CERTAIN PEOPLE here definitely know the ways and what should be known about the Windows 8.

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  2. #22


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    Were you drunk when vista came out? As I remember, the economy was doing WWWWWWWAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY better than 2012/2013 for sure.
    Just to remind you guys. Vista came out on Febr.1, 2007. That was the day my wife bought her first laptop. We had a lot of fun with it. We both liked Vista. But I don't remember how the economy was in those days. But at the end of 2007, the US housing bubble burst. And that went on until at least 2009.
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  3. #23


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    No, it's pretty hard to compare vista's uptake to 8's. It's not the same time period, not the same PC type, not the same market scenario, and not the same tech scenario. Back in vista's day, we had Windows Mobile, and the iphone barely was released. The desktop PC was the reigning king of the PC, laptops were emerging as the form factor of choice, and the Windows OS itself was shite. It wasn't just because of third party issues, but it was genuinely a half-cooked, Windows Server modded version of Windows with glass and shininess. The economy was one that people weren't worried so much about job security, low wages, and potentially losing their money. At that time, it was the height of the housing market.

    Move onto to Windows 8, Windows Phone 8 has been released, the iphone is the top most used smartphone platform out there, "app" is a word and is overly concerned about as ios and android rely on those third party apps for a decent experience, the desktop PC has been considered dead and only really for the technologically enabled, gamers, enterprise, and people that need a lot of power. The laptop form factor is the de facto standard of the PC, the tablet form factor is predicted to emerge soon as the form factor of choice in a couple of years. The Windows operating system itself is a matured kernel of vista, runs better than xp or 7 (some will debate this) and is the most controversial version since 95. The economy is one where people are worried about debt and paying it off, not enough jobs, not enough qualifications, not enough well paying jobs at least. The market in the US at least is slowly picking up something. Also, the PC's that people bought four years ago is just fine enough to run Windows 8, 9, and/or 10 without issue as the hardware standards were raised due to vista, with Microsoft committed to make Windows EVEN more efficient as we're seeing with the Blue leak.

    Windows vista and 8 aren't even close comparisons to each other, xp and 8 might be a better comparison as the economy back then was slowing down due to the internet bubble and 9/11. Shoot, xp even started this whole "tablet PC/tablet computing" wave...
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  4. #24


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Were you drunk when vista came out? As I remember, the economy was doing WWWWWWWAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY better than 2012/2013 for sure.
    Just to remind you guys. Vista came out on Febr.1, 2007. That was the day my wife bought her first laptop. We had a lot of fun with it. We both liked Vista. But I don't remember how the economy was in those days. But at the end of 2007, the US housing bubble burst. And that went on until at least 2009.
    Wasn't it like January 31st? I remember it was delayed a few months and missed the October release. As far as I remembered, the economy had a bit of trouble around 2005-2006 and then it picked up. It was a normal cyclical slowdown, not a totally epic failure on EVERYONE'S behalf that did it. My brother bought a Dell Insiprion slim edition with vista on it, that was my first experience with it. It was cool to use, but after three weeks, every other time a program would screw up and the cool new "This program is not responding, what would you like to do?" prompts would show up. It was nice to click to kill it, but got annoying EVERY other time. I believe he still has that PC to this day as his main puter with like several external drives attached to it... Odd, considering he has a degree in networking...

    The bubble officially burst in 2009, but there was a slow build up to it past 2007. The dollar lost value, some companies were reporting some less than expected growth. It was another slowdown, but then idiotic lack of regulation popped the bubble and blew everything up and even continues to this day in Europe and here in the US.
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  5. #25


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    I agree to a certain point. The Windows 8 nums lump PC, 2 tablet types and the phones all togehter into 1 number. Vista was PC only. It would be interesting to see the Windows 8 PC only numbers.

    And that changing world is not going to change that much - at least not soon. Business still needs PCs, gamers, enthusiasts and those who need processing power will still rely on the PC.

    That leaves some kids, some professionals who use a tablet and smartphone as a second device and maybe some older people who need it only to skype with their grandchildren. Tablets or smartphones as primary data processing device will probably be the exception.
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  6. #26


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    Basically, the desktop PC is pretty for the enthusiast, enterprise (even that is changing), and the gamer. Not many people in the everyday world want a desktop, they want a laptop. They may want a tablet, or tablet PC. Not a desktop anymore. MAYBE a touch AIO PC for sure, those are nifty, but my problem with them is the fact they share laptop hardware in the AIO form factor. I personally want to buy a touchscreen monitor and real desktop ATX parts and build a GENUINE desktop AIO PC, where it tilts down like a drawing easel, and the power of the true desktop. It would require a LOT of modding, soldering, and some nifty fitting of parts. Worth it? Probably for the person who wants good power and a modern desktop form factor. The problem though is getting the PSU though...how to get an ATX power supply to something more of a brick or integrated into the PC. Or maybe a server PSU...
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  7. #27


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    You keep making the difference between desktop and laptop. If we talk about 'desktop', we mean both. Desktop is the thing you look at, not the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    You keep making the difference between desktop and laptop. If we talk about 'desktop', we mean both. Desktop is the thing you look at, not the box.
    Yes, that's kind of like saying the Surface Pro and it's ilk are not PCs.
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  9. #29


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    You keep making the difference between desktop and laptop. If we talk about 'desktop', we mean both. Desktop is the thing you look at, not the box.
    I've been talking about the actual FORM FACTOR here, both ATX case and I guess AIO as that is genuinely a "desktop" as it is literally on top of the desk as the very first PC was, an AIO desktop.
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  10. #30


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    Shoot, I just did a thorough disassemble of an HP touch AIO PC that needs a new display, and I'm seriously considering building said true and through desktop touch AIO PC using ATX parts. I'm playing around with the display, and it honestly seems that almost ALL the parts can be finagled in minus the PSU. I'm thinking of modding the PSU to also include and external hotswap hard drive cage, so it would be a nice useful little box, and it will tilt down like a drawing easel, and the side profile will basically be a wedge.

    This may be my next PC project after mine.... I may also take a picture of what I'm talking about with using touch in the desktop format. It's quite usable.
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