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    Educators Across the US Adopt Windows 8 to Help Make Stude


    REDMOND, Wash. — March 27, 2013 — Microsoft Corp. today announced that 10 K–12 school districts and higher-education institutions have signed on to use Windows 8 for more than 540,000 students and faculty to prepare students for futures in college and careers. Microsoft’s expanding community of Windows 8 education adopters now includes Apollo Group, Atlanta Public Schools, Barry University, Fargo Public Schools, Fresno Unified School District, Jackson-Madison County School System, Pace University, San Antonio Independent School District, Thomas College and Tuckahoe Common School District.

    Educators Across the US Adopt Windows 8 to Help Make Students College-Ready and Career-Ready

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    I don't know if the US taxpayer is having to cough up for that lot.

    In the UK , I understand MS has done a deal - not sure exactly the price.

    It is worth MS giving it away - it keeps out any competition - for Office as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I don't know if the US taxpayer is having to cough up for that lot.

    In the UK , I understand MS has done a deal - not sure exactly the price.

    It is worth MS giving it away - it keeps out any competition - for Office as well.
    yes cant see they paying full price it be special price im sure
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    Office365 for Education is free for both students and faculty - only plans that include the desktop software installation packages for Office 2013, voicemail, or uptime SLAs cost money (and comparatively, they're almost free):
    Office 365 Academic - Office.com
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    Microsoft has been offering deals like that for years, so that they virtually embed their products into such organisations. Enterprise customers have a deal where employees can purchase the complete Office Professional suite for about $15 (I've been able to do so), which locks in a huge number of consumers to Microsoft's products. It costs Microsoft virtually nothing, but maintains a huge userbase. Then there are all the student discounts etc. Mind you others do that as well, such as Adobe.
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    Aw yeah!! I'll gladly pay my federal and state taxes if it means Windows 8 is being used in public education for sure! Here in my state of Idaho, we had idiot lawmakers try (later were nullified by the public) to "reform" education. Part of the amendment was to add technology into schools, which is a good idea in theory but in practice is a WHOLE other thing. They didn't even research what would be best for the student and IT staff. They were going to use these HP Elite or Pro books I believe, because HP donated like 50,000 dollars to our idiot state education superintendent's reelection. But the problem with those is the fact that they are laptops, with HARD DRIVES mind you, running Windows 7 which probably will get reformatted over to xp in probably several school districts in the state. I know the local schools will definitely do an idiotic move like that. A hard drive based laptop given to your typical twitter/instagram/facebook/"smart"phone user teenager? IT costs will pile up left and right to replace dead drives. SSDs should had been used, but again, that just goes to show how poor that effort was on the idiot lawmakers' behalf on that aspect.... But enough of that.

    The benefit I see here is that educators will use Windows 8 tablet PCs, with SSDs over hard drives. Fast, speedy, and in a proper form factor. It's awful to hear that ipads are being used to just basically read a book, you literally can't do crap with a stick in education with such a device; it was NEVER designed for that. It's too expensive to try to make it useable somewhat for those purposes, and even then, the software support for Office won't be there, networked drives can't be accessed, and special airplay or Bluetooth or other ios enabled printers have to be used. TOO expensive! With a Windows 8 tablet PC, at probably at an OEM contracted price for education, along with Microsoft basically giving away Office 365 for very little for education, this is literally the BEST solution to be put in practice at the current point in time. That's just that. And best of all, x86 tablets are great because they can be configured to have special software, like AutoCAD for drafting classes, Photoshop for digital media classes, and so on and so forth on that student's personal tablet computer to have with them at all times.

    The way I see it, I question the institution of somewhat higher education that uses the ipad.
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    LOL.

    That is one of the ways MS keeps their monopoly.

    Not surprised you approve of it.

    Interesting those kids will be exposed almost constantly to the barrage of exhortations to MS online services, using their dominance to give Bing an uncompetitive advantage, ads, etc.

    Lovely.


    the software support for Office won't be there
    As it shouldn't be. If it was, it would have a devastating effect on any attempt at competition, or a free market.

    You believe in a free market don't you Cokie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    LOL.

    That is one of the ways MS keeps their monopoly.

    Not surprised you approve of it.

    Interesting those kids will be exposed almost constantly to the barrage of exhortations to MS online services, using their dominance to give Bing an uncompetitive advantage, ads, etc.

    Lovely.


    the software support for Office won't be there
    As it shouldn't be. If it was, it would have a devastating effect on any attempt at competition, or a free market.

    You believe in a free market don't you Cokie?
    Not only I approve of it, it bloody well works! I believe in a free market, but as it is, pretty much no one is competing against Microsoft well enough to be considered an alternative. All there is are freeware that I can vouch for a fact can't float in the education when students have been taught Office already. There are cloud services like google docs, but even that can't float well enough most of the time, it's too simple and when you need advanced things; it's not there.

    And you don't seem to see the flipside, if google were to invade on Microsoft's territory, that would be a monopoly as well. In fact, that's what google is doing, becoming the "new" Microsoft as they were 15 years ago. Just because Microsoft is predominantly used in the enterprise and education doesn't mean it's a monopoly, but what else is there? Not much. Why? Not many are competing against them on a dollar based level. Why? I can't say. Should there be? Yes. That's how things innovate and develop.

    Even then, an x86 tablet PC can be easily switched to a google online monopoly, google docs, youtube, google search, chrome, and so on and so forth.

    This is why you can't underestimate Microsoft, they knew how to create territory many many years ago: they licensed Windows, focused on the enterprise, then as an indirect result, trickled down to the consumer as that's what they were already using at work and school. That's what apple is trying to do with the ipad, get it into education and extort students and schools of hundreds of thousands of markups because of a bitten out of apple logo. Lastly, Microsoft was actually developing Office for android and ios but that seems to have crashed and burned. Why? They started some crap with google and their paid adverts, in which google responded with cutting out google services and support from Windows Phone like google docs and calendars as well as youtube; after saying they're cutting out some of Microsoft's services from gmail I think it was. So that's not happening due to company competition. Then there's apple and the ipad, there were legit screenshots of Office mobile being developed for it, but apple got greedy and demanded a 30 percent cut of SkyDrive storage upgrades. Which I find stupid as taking a 30 percent cut from a free app of something that you don't even purchase in-app, you do it on Outlook.com in browser. So apple's not relenting on that, and Microsoft doesn't want to either. So that's not going to happen.

    Office is basically the leverage for using Windows and Windows Phone, it's the best, most used, and has little alternative. Not that it's a monopoly, there isn't competition that can really be an alternative to it that I've mentioned already. That's the way it is.
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    Thanks - best laugh I have had in while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    LOL.

    That is one of the ways MS keeps their monopoly.
    There's no such thing as a free market in the US, just like the US isn't a "free country" - it's nice to say, and it's nice to believe, but it doesn't exist as such. Also, to be fair Apple gives away millions of dollars of hardware and software to school systems all over the US as well (and has since I was in school, 30+ years ago - it's not a new thing at all ). I don't remember seeing Microsoft software in wide use in public schools until recently (last 5-6 years), but that may just be my experience and not typical. I am simply guessing this is just Microsoft taking a page from Apple's playbook.
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