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  1. #31


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post

    As a person who usually listens to Classical music I Still haven't a clue what you are saying.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    OK. You have a lot of insight and knowledge to convey, but your posts are usually very, very, long. That detracts from the message that you're trying to convey, because it simply gets lost in the verbiage. Some may have the patience to read and attempt to understand every sentence, but I suspect that most will not.

    You really need to take note of the theme in the link. Can I convey my message in less words?
    Hi there
    That's me -- I'm not part of the "Twitter" generation where I have to convey everything in 140 characters or less or even worse - the Facebook stuff.
    The whole point surely of The WRITTEN word is that it can be perused leisurely and re-read multiple times.
    If people don't want to read that's their choice.

    Actually I wonder if one could learn even something basic like simple arithmetic if they were restricted to "Twitter" like responses only.


    Sometimes the enjoyment of a load of people's posts and threads is not purely just on the content - but the writing style / content / wit (or lack of it) and all sorts of intangibles.

    Writing everything in a Machine like and boring way just IMO loses half the fun and spontaneity of the Forum.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Good point!
    Respect to those who know and want to write properly.

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  2. #32


    Posts : 1,770
    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    That's me -- I'm not part of the "Twitter" generation where I have to convey everything in 140 characters or less or even worse - the Facebook stuff.
    The whole point surely of The WRITTEN word is that it can be perused leisurely and re-read multiple times.
    If people don't want to read that's their choice.

    Actually I wonder if one could learn even something basic like simple arithmetic if they were restricted to "Twitter" like responses only.


    Sometimes the enjoyment of a load of people's posts and threads is not purely just on the content - but the writing style / content / wit (or lack of it) and all sorts of intangibles.

    Writing everything in a Machine like and boring way just IMO loses half the fun and spontaneity of the Forum.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I'm not suggesting Twitter like responses, but something a tad more concise.

    In my past life, I've had to draft Ministerial Briefs for our Federal Government and, in doing so, you have to be able to convey often very complex issues into one A4 page in 14pt text, where almost a quarter of the page is taken up with headings and other non-informative text.

    Anything that you write on a forum is not perused at leisure, as evidenced by the fact that so many posts are misread, where even short posts are scanned and assumptions made regarding content. Forums aren't a place for navel gazing and pontificating, concepts and ideas need to be conveyed clearly and succinctly.

    Don't over-estimate the value of your dissertations.
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  3. #33


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    That's me -- I'm not part of the "Twitter" generation where I have to convey everything in 140 characters or less or even worse - the Facebook stuff.
    The whole point surely of The WRITTEN word is that it can be perused leisurely and re-read multiple times.
    If people don't want to read that's their choice.

    Actually I wonder if one could learn even something basic like simple arithmetic if they were restricted to "Twitter" like responses only.


    Sometimes the enjoyment of a load of people's posts and threads is not purely just on the content - but the writing style / content / wit (or lack of it) and all sorts of intangibles.

    Writing everything in a Machine like and boring way just IMO loses half the fun and spontaneity of the Forum.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I'm not suggesting Twitter like responses, but something a tad more concise.

    In my past life, I've had to draft Ministerial Briefs for our Federal Government and, in doing so, you have to be able to convey often very complex issues into one A4 page in 14pt text, where almost a quarter of the page is taken up with headings and other non-informative text.

    Anything that you write on a forum is not perused at leisure, as evidenced by the fact that so many posts are misread, where even short posts are scanned and assumptions made regarding content. Forums aren't a place for navel gazing and pontificating, concepts and ideas need to be conveyed clearly and succinctly.

    Don't over-estimate the value of your dissertations.
    Hi there
    actually I'm quite pleased even if only ONE person reads it.

    The good think about the net is people can either take it or leave it at will. If I Valued my dissertations as you put it I'd probably direct them to a commercial venture where I could get PAID or to an academic institution where you could get a decent reputation from your peers.

    Sometimes COMPOSING the post is half the fun -- makes a change from the strict rigour of mathematical and engineering projects.
    If people don't like it --that's their choice I'm afraid.

    However I seem to have a few reputation points so SOMEBODY must be reading them.

    "A Leopard can't change its spots".

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. #34


    Posts : 1,770
    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    What would one do without reputation points?
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  5. #35


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    What would one do without reputation points?
    Hi there
    your comments might be short but they are really OBSCURE. All the reputation points do is basically show a) someone has READ a post and b) presumably they have been Helped like a problem has been solved.

    I see you originally worked having to condense a document for some type of Government department.

    That document must have been a total model of complete Obfuscation -- fits the bill PERFECTLY for most government documents from any jurisdiction.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #36


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    That's true. I'm not that experienced a Linux use, so GNOME is all the same to me. I gave up on Ubuntu and have been getting used to Mint and find it quite good. I avoided the earlier version of Mint, while playing with Ubuntu since 10.4, but Mint appears to have jumped a generation with version 14. I also like the Cinnamon interface.
    I used GNOME 2.x on my Ubuntu install.
    I replaced Ubuntu 10.04 with Linux Mint 14 MATE in January.

    I haven't tried Cinnamon (I read that it has an invisible hotspot in one of the corners).
    I find MATE to be quite usable.

    A gadget that I used in Ubuntu doesn't work in the MATE though (a bar chart showing mounted drive usage - GTK DiskFree).
    It uses Caja instead of Nautilus as its file manager.
    It seems identical to me but I keep forgetting the name.
    I can't install VMware Workstation as my bundle is too old (v7.1.2).
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  7. #37


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    I can't install VMware Workstation as my bundle is too old (v7.1.2).
    Get a newer bundle to apply the needed kernel patches, 7.1.5 or 7.1.6 and you can use your own legit key with those.
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  8. #38


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Jimbo. I read every letter you post. You have very good views and address the subjects in a balanced fashion. Keep them coming. Don't worry about the twitter generation. They can live with their IMs, instant food and instant coffee.
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  9. #39


    USA, Idaho
    Posts : 1,062
    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    Hi Jimbo,

    Don't change. Of all the responders here on the Eights you are probably one of the few who I read all the way through and not just scene. . .

    Ray8, and believe it or not you are also. . .

    . . .and now it is time to head down to Sun Valley and get in a round of "Golf." . . .
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  10. #40


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post

    As a person who usually listens to Classical music I Still haven't a clue what you are saying.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    OK. You have a lot of insight and knowledge to convey, but your posts are usually very, very, long. That detracts from the message that you're trying to convey, because it simply gets lost in the verbiage. Some may have the patience to read and attempt to understand every sentence, but I suspect that most will not.

    You really need to take note of the theme in the link. Can I convey my message in less words?
    Hi there
    That's me -- I'm not part of the "Twitter" generation where I have to convey everything in 140 characters or less or even worse - the Facebook stuff.
    The whole point surely of The WRITTEN word is that it can be perused leisurely and re-read multiple times.
    If people don't want to read that's their choice.

    Actually I wonder if one could learn even something basic like simple arithmetic if they were restricted to "Twitter" like responses only.


    Sometimes the enjoyment of a load of people's posts and threads is not purely just on the content - but the writing style / content / wit (or lack of it) and all sorts of intangibles.

    Writing everything in a Machine like and boring way just IMO loses half the fun and spontaneity of the Forum.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I have to say, I enjoy reading your posts jimbo, length doesn't matter for me. As long as the point is convey and explained well, it's great. Although there is a saying that pertains to writing that relates to a woman's skirt: long enough to cover the topic, but short enough to keep it interesting.
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