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  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    Intel will be a big player in this with their new Haswell chip. If it lives up to its fanfare of better performance and low wattage it could replace ARM in tablets and then we won't need RT.

    Jim
    Pretty much.

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  2. #12


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Why is it that everyone thinks Microsoft will change back just because they think they should? Why is it Linux and OS X are allowed to do whatever they feel like it, albeit Microsoft is just being stupid for changing the game without asking certain individuals for their permission?

    Ain't computing fun . . .
    Simple answer, because MS is a monopoly and if you are a monopoly you have certain civic reponsibilities.
    Civic responsibility and monopoly generally don't work in the same sentence....

    Technically yes, they have a monopoly, but why? Why, when a Linux variant can be used an alternative to Microsoft's clientele?
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  3. #13


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Why is it that everyone thinks Microsoft will change back just because they think they should? Why is it Linux and OS X are allowed to do whatever they feel like it, albeit Microsoft is just being stupid for changing the game without asking certain individuals for their permission?

    Ain't computing fun . . .
    Apple can do what it wants with OSX, as it's predominantly an artists computer OS, so the mainstream users don't really care. Linux has so many variations that it doesn't matter what they do, there'll always be one variation to suit one's needs. Linux user groups generally also listen to their users, which is why Mint has become so popular when Canonical refused to listen and kept on with Unity.

    Microsoft appears to betting the farm on their new directions; no desktop, subscription everything, 'all your apps belong us'. Microsoft is probably so committed now that they can't turn back, unless everything falls on its face. They are trying to do an Apple and if so, I won't feel sorry if they fail.
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  4. #14


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    Windows 7 on the desktop, Windows 8 Surface Pro mobile


    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    Intel will be a big player in this with their new Haswell chip. If it lives up to its fanfare of better performance and low wattage it could replace ARM in tablets and then we won't need RT.

    Jim
    RT isn't going away.. Haswell or not. And we allready have a hybrid in the Surface Pro. Microsoft is going to make some form of Surface Mini at 5-7" that will replace Surface RT and compete with the iPad Mini. Could also be a form of phablet. Not much reason to make a tablet at the small form factor without the capability for cell phone access anymore tbh.
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  5. #15


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Can someone explain the actual differences between GNOME and Unity in Ubuntu? I'm not a Linux geek, so I don't know too much about that. But from what I've researched, the differences aren't even close to the modern UI style of Windows 8 and the legacy Desktop. Those two are more drastic.
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  6. #16


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Can someone explain the actual differences between GNOME and Unity in Ubuntu? I'm not a Linux geek, so I don't know too much about that. But from what I've researched, the differences aren't even close to the modern UI style of Windows 8 and the legacy Desktop. Those two are more drastic.
    You thinks we're geeks, you should speak Linux!

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  7. #17


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    GNOME is somewhat like the traditional interface used in just about every iteration of Windows up to version 7.

    UNITY is a side bar that attempts to put what Canonical believe are the most used functions in Ubuntu into a vertical series of icons. It's like a mini MPI.

    Both UIs serve the same function predominantly, as Ubuntu doesn't really use apps. The UNITY interface tries to simplify the user experience. Most Linux users don't like the idea of 'simplify'.
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  8. #18


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    they have a monopoly, but why? Why, when a Linux variant can be used an alternative to Microsoft's clientele?
    Is that serious question?

    Surely it's a joke. Hard to tell with you Cokie.
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  9. #19


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    GNOME is somewhat like the traditional interface used in just about every iteration of Windows up to version 7.
    That is true of GNOME 2.x (the best version).

    GNOME 3 adopted the Apple(?) idea of a single disembodied menu (i.e. you can't swap from one window to another, by clicking on the menu bar in the second window, because there are no menu bars in either window).

    GNOME 3 is hated almost as much as Unity.

    It seems that a lot of long-time Linux users have swapped to KDE, XCFE, or some other desktop environment (GUI).
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  10. #20


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    From what I've seen, GNOME and Unity look basically the same. Unity has some more visual design that I've seen paralleled with Windows 8 (Start Screen) and os x, GNOME is basically like most Linux versions I've worked with, very basic, very focused on the user knowing their Linux stuff, not for the common plebian.

    But with Ubuntu though, the differences to me are so minimal, it's odd to think that would be considered upsetting. Really? That's what's used to compare to Windows 8? That's not even a comparison. Windows 8 is more like going from ios to Windows Phone, not like GNOME to Unity. That's more android to ios.
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