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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post

    @Ray8.

    The 4,000,000 downloads is another case of "Statistic Misuse". Loads of people download stuff, possibly try it and then don't use it.

    I tried Classic Shell initially -- Ok it did "what it said on the tin" but after a little while having learned W8 a bit more I just decided I didn't really need it any more and uninstalled it. I'm sure there are loads of others in this or similar situations so number of downloads doesn't equate to number of users. Humans are naturally curious too so if something is available for FREE there's no harm in them trying it.

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    It may be, but companies like Stardock wouldn't be in business if their products weren't in demand (you pay for their products).

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    @Ray8
    Your statement is correct about Stardock -- BUT if you READ your original post about the 4,000,000 downloads --these are TWO totally different points.

    You could still SELL a product even if it were only needed by 10 people. I'm sure Stardock meets a demand but I doubt whether their number of customers is anything like 4,000,000.

    I think you'd have a hard time in Court as you tend to introduce totally spurious evidence into the original point you are making

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    @Ray8
    Your statement is correct about Stardock -- BUT if you READ your original post about the 4,000,000 downloads --these are TWO totally different points.

    You could still SELL a product even if it were only needed by 10 people. I'm sure Stardock meets a demand but I doubt whether their number of customers is anything like 4,000,000.

    I think you'd have a hard time in Court as you tend to introduce totally spurious evidence into the original point you are making

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    jimbo
    I specifically stated, so that no one would confuse what program I was referring to:

    Over 4,000,000 downloads of Classic Shell alone is not small bikkies.
    Obviously that was not clear enough. Sigh! If nothing else, it reflects a degree of interest, if not final use.

    I then made a statement about Stardock, which reinforced the argument that people indeed do want the traditional start menu, as they are prepared to pay for such a thing. I should have also searched for more evidence of its popularity, so that those looking for any trivial excuse to suggest my argument is crap would have to go looking for other rabbit holes. So here you go:

    Stardock launched the first public beta of its Start8 program for Windows 8 nearly a year ago and it was designed to bring a version of the familiar Start menu UI to the Windows 8 desktop interface. In October, the company released the first commercial version of Start8. Today, Stardock CEO Brad Wardell told Neowin that the program has had 3 million downloads since the commercial launch and that it currently "sells thousands of copies a day."
    Stardock: 3 million Start8 downloads; version 1.1 launched - Neowin

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    Conclusion: They have purchased and use 8 any which way.
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    OK, I have installed the Windows Blue on my new Seagate drive....well then! Installation was rather quick for sure. About 10 minutes.

    Baby tiles are FREAKING AWESOME on the Start Screen! But it's still glitchy to move the small tiles around.

    PC Settings is basically like almost a fifth or a quarter of the Control Panel.

    The most coolest thing I'd say about Windows Blue is the fact that the 32 bit version literally occupies about 7 gigs of space, YES, 7 gigs of space! The only time I've ever seen that happen is when you fit a 32 bit Windows into an 8 gig partition, this was a whole 900 some gigs of free space. Well done!

    I'll post some fun screenshots of it when I'm back on my normal Windows 8 as it seems I can't upload them in Blue....

    Also, I'd say Blue is what Windows 8 should had been FROM THE START, better coloring options, baby tiles, better arranging of such, a better PC Settings and on.
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    from everything I have been reading, is windows blue going to be an upgrade (free) like a service pack? that we can put on our windows 8 Pro computers now?
    If not, does that mean we will have to pay to upgrade windows 8 Pro now? or are we stuck with what we got and we would have to purchase another computer to get it?
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    I'll post some fun screenshots of it when I'm back on my normal Windows 8 as it seems I can't upload them in Blue....
    Strange. I've been using it to post and upload in some forums without problem.

    Also, I'd say Blue is what Windows 8 should had been FROM THE START, better coloring options, baby tiles, better arranging of such, a better PC Settings and on.
    Yes. That's something that M$ must be working on. It's crucial that people have the ability to fully configure their PCs from the new UI. If M$ don't go this way Blue wont be unlike a minor SP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Conclusion: They have purchased and use 8 any which way.
    Could be they don't like it and are getting some relief from 3rd party fixes.

    They aren't using it the way MS intended.

    It's probably not that easy or obvious to many how to return/upgrade 8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post

    It would appear that people actually want things like the start button back, else companies wouldn't be doing such a roaring trade with the likes of Classic Shell, Start8 etc. Some people just seems to be spewing on their own shoes by denying this.

    In case that's hard to believe: Download Statistics: All Files. That's just for one week,
    If you look at the numbers from companies that product a start menu replacement, it's a small percentage compared to the rest of the known Windows 8 sales numbers.
    Over 4,000,000 downloads of Classic Shell alone is not small bikkies.
    Which is still kind of small versus 65 million known sold licenses of Windows 8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    from everything I have been reading, is windows blue going to be an upgrade (free) like a service pack? that we can put on our windows 8 Pro computers now?
    If not, does that mean we will have to pay to upgrade windows 8 Pro now? or are we stuck with what we got and we would have to purchase another computer to get it?
    No one knows yet, but most likely it will be a download from the Windows Store. I would imagine it might be a paid upgrade, but might have an early promotion offer like when Windows 8 launched when it was 40 dollars. Windows Blue might be the same thing, although new .iso images to download probably will have Blue already in it, so it could be a massive service pack with balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vrosa View Post
    I'll post some fun screenshots of it when I'm back on my normal Windows 8 as it seems I can't upload them in Blue....
    Strange. I've been using it to post and upload in some forums without problem.

    Also, I'd say Blue is what Windows 8 should had been FROM THE START, better coloring options, baby tiles, better arranging of such, a better PC Settings and on.
    Yes. That's something that M$ must be working on. It's crucial that people have the ability to fully configure their PCs from the new UI. If M$ don't go this way Blue wont be unlike a minor SP.

    It might had been because I was in the high contrast theme....
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