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    Thankfully my superannuation fund diversifies and, from what I know, does not invest to any significant degree in tech companies, as they are some of the most risky enterprises ever, even if they have been having a bull run for some years.

    Microsoft shareholders may have reason to be a tad worried at the moment, given the rousing response (not) that Windows 8 has received so far.

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    Hi, Jimbo, What about Micrososft being embarrassed with private softwares which undo what they do? Softwares which allow users to completely ignore the existance of Metro UI and apps for instance?
    Are you sure that Micrososft want to keep the same flexibility as in previous versions of Windows™?
    Of course that would be a very bad decision commercialy and for the shareholders. But our criticism is just about that: They do make very bad decisions.
    Have you seen how they advertise new computers, sporting the Metro Start Screen? No wonder nobody buys.
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    Even Apple makes mistakes:

    A statement Apple posted in Chinese to its website on Monday said the complaints had prompted "deep reflection" and persuaded the company of the need to revamp its repair policies, boost communication with Chinese consumers and strengthen oversight of authorised resellers.

    "We've come to understand through this process that because of our poor communication, some have come to feel that Apple's attitude is arrogant and that we don't care about or value feedback from the consumer," Cook's Chinese statement said, as translated by The Associated Press.

    "For the concerns and misunderstandings passed on to the consumer, we express our sincere apologies."
    Apple apologises after China state media attacks its 'arrogance' | Information, Gadgets, Mobile Phones News & Reviews | News.com.au
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    I actually prefer Metro on my Surface Pro. I like that I have the option for both. Getting a program to undo something like the start screen isn't a high priority to a lot of people. Absolutely not me.

    So before some of you go on about what people don't like, think about the MANY that do like it before spewing your junk around.

    There will always be hacks to change things like you have at your disposal if you want. People need to quit already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    I actually prefer Metro on my Surface Pro. I like that I have the option for both. Getting a program to undo something like the start screen isn't a high priority to a lot of people. Absolutely not me.

    So before some of you go on about what people don't like, think about the MANY that do like it before spewing your junk around.

    There will always be hacks to change things like you have at your disposal if you want. People need to quit already.
    It would appear that people actually want things like the start button back, else companies wouldn't be doing such a roaring trade with the likes of Classic Shell, Start8 etc. Some people just seems to be spewing on their own shoes by denying this.

    In case that's hard to believe: Download Statistics: All Files. That's just for one week,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    I actually prefer Metro on my Surface Pro. I like that I have the option for both. Getting a program to undo something like the start screen isn't a high priority to a lot of people. Absolutely not me.

    So before some of you go on about what people don't like, think about the MANY that do like it before spewing your junk around.

    There will always be hacks to change things like you have at your disposal if you want. People need to quit already.
    It would appear that people actually want things like the start button back, else companies wouldn't be doing such a roaring trade with the likes of Classic Shell, Start8 etc. Some people just seems to be spewing on their own shoes by denying this.

    In case that's hard to believe: Download Statistics: All Files. That's just for one week,
    If you look at the numbers from companies that product a start menu replacement, it's a small percentage compared to the rest of the known Windows 8 sales numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    I actually prefer Metro on my Surface Pro. I like that I have the option for both. Getting a program to undo something like the start screen isn't a high priority to a lot of people. Absolutely not me.

    So before some of you go on about what people don't like, think about the MANY that do like it before spewing your junk around.

    There will always be hacks to change things like you have at your disposal if you want. People need to quit already.
    It would appear that people actually want things like the start button back, else companies wouldn't be doing such a roaring trade with the likes of Classic Shell, Start8 etc. Some people just seems to be spewing on their own shoes by denying this.

    In case that's hard to believe: Download Statistics: All Files. That's just for one week,
    If you look at the numbers from companies that product a start menu replacement, it's a small percentage compared to the rest of the known Windows 8 sales numbers.
    Over 4,000,000 downloads of Classic Shell alone is not small bikkies.
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  8. #108


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    Hi there
    I really have only 3 complaints against Windows 8

    1) Tile customisation is still not very good.

    2) On a large monitor with a lot of applications endless horizontal scrolling is not a good or even convenient idea -- I know this can be "got round" via using custom toolbars etc but really it should be able to have say a SINGLE tile say Adobe CS2 which then expands into the various components say Photoshop, dreamweaver etc.

    3) Metro apps -- must be made to be "Windowable" with re-sizeable windows -- otherwise these are totally a waste of time on a desktop / laptop with LARGE external monitors.

    If you don't use Metro - then points 1 and 2 are easily "by-passable" by not bothering with the start screen after initial boot -- and the SEARCH facility is far superior to W7 - just type and the application is found easily -- actually a lot better than searching a large "Classic menu" once you get the hang of it.

    W8 won't be anything like as bad for Ms as pundits say it is -- in any case look at the current Ms stock price --it's not doing badly and moving in the right direction whereas AAPL (Apple) has dropped by around 50% over the last 52 weeks.

    @Ray8.

    The 4,000,000 downloads is another case of "Statistic Misuse". Loads of people download stuff, possibly try it and then don't use it.

    I tried Classic Shell initially -- Ok it did "what it said on the tin" but after a little while having learned W8 a bit more I just decided I didn't really need it any more and uninstalled it. I'm sure there are loads of others in this or similar situations so number of downloads doesn't equate to number of users. Humans are naturally curious too so if something is available for FREE there's no harm in them trying it.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    I don't quite understand why 'search' is such a grand thing over the start button/menu in Windows 7. Any experienced user of Windows (of any flavour) will have pinned frequently used programs to the taskbar/desktop, more oft used programs to the start menu and less used programs in the 'all programs' drop-down menu. I don't see what's difficult whatsoever with that concept. Search also works with Windows 7 if you're looking for something that is very infrequently used.

    The Windows 7 style start menu etc is just so logical and easy to use. It's no different to how a good kitchen is organised with all the implements, cooking tools, food, spices etc in their most accessible and logical locations, and able to be changed to how one likes to use a kitchen. I get the feeling that the Windows 8 start menu was designed by people who never actually cook anything, but simply eat out or order takeaway their entire lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post

    @Ray8.

    The 4,000,000 downloads is another case of "Statistic Misuse". Loads of people download stuff, possibly try it and then don't use it.

    I tried Classic Shell initially -- Ok it did "what it said on the tin" but after a little while having learned W8 a bit more I just decided I didn't really need it any more and uninstalled it. I'm sure there are loads of others in this or similar situations so number of downloads doesn't equate to number of users. Humans are naturally curious too so if something is available for FREE there's no harm in them trying it.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    It may be, but companies like Stardock wouldn't be in business if their products weren't in demand (you pay for their products).
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