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Forbes Win 8 is the first Windows I hate

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    Forbes Win 8 is the first Windows I hate


    My only hope for Windows 8 now is that MS comes to its senses and allows us to customize Windows 8 to focus more on the keyboard and mouse. It could achieve this with the service pack 1 update that we expect—if Microsoft holds to historical timetables—to land towards the end of this year. I’m not asking Microsoft to abandon touch, just give people who have no need for it—who, by my estimation account for 99 percent of Windows users—the chance to move it into the background.

    Why Windows 8 Is The First Windows Release I Absolutely Hate - Forbes

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    If mouse verses touch there is less physical movement with using the mouse…
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    Must be one of Ray8s mates, "by my estimation", that about sums it up. How about some real figures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    My only hope for Windows 8 now is that MS comes to its senses and allows us to customize Windows 8 to focus more on the keyboard and mouse. It could achieve this with the service pack 1 update that we expect—if Microsoft holds to historical timetables—to land towards the end of this year. I’m not asking Microsoft to abandon touch, just give people who have no need for it—who, by my estimation account for 99 percent of Windows users—the chance to move it into the background.

    Why Windows 8 Is The First Windows Release I Absolutely Hate - Forbes
    Hi there

    Yawn, Yawn , Mega more Yawn.
    Forbes and his ilk are just as worthless as Gartner etc.

    For instance he says He doesn't like Windows 7 either -- please note Ray8 -- so if he's a colleague of yours what do you feel about W7 or should we all stick with XP.

    Another issue - he says touch is FORCED on to users --you don't have to get ANYWHERE near touch if you don't want to .
    And the most BOVINE remark of all -- Users will be forced to change the way they work -- well if set up properly --especially in a Workplace environment where most apps are probably pinned to the desktop / quick launch bar - users barely have to change ANYTHING.

    If this article is written by a technical guy -- well it doesn't say much for their experience with ACTUAL USERS or even how users work in an office etc.

    I think you can safely IGNORE all those articles by so called "experts".

    If person A doesn't like it that's his / her prerogative. I can well imagine how someone used to Windows 3.11 won't like it.

    IMO even at work the guys who seem to be most afraid of using new technology seem to be the I.T admins who take great pleasure in having loads of text based consoles covered with all sorts of scripts that make the old Egyptian symbols in the Valley of Kings look like a kindergarten ABC. (I suppose the IT guys realize it'll probably make their jobs more difficult - but that IMO isn't a valid excuse for using new technology if it makes the END USERS job easier).

    Most of the people I've shown it to quite like it actually - even people used to previous versions of Windows -- but W8 does need to be set up so people don't get lost trying to get out of those metro screens. The GUI does need to be changed a bit - but the overall OS isn't met with anything like the hostility some people on this Forum seem to have for it.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    It sounded like a relative connection to Ray for me too. The problem with Windows 8 is that Microsoft decided to shove a highly inefficient touch-based user interface onto millions of PC users using non-touch desktops and notebooks...
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Must be one of Ray8s mates, "by my estimation", that about sums it up. How about some real figures.
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    Good mornin Ray.
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    They should never have forced the MPI on us, or RT, or Windows 8, 10" tablets are DOA. They should have bought out Surface Pro first, it's all so bleeding obvious old chap.

    Just being serious for a moment, what's an MPI again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post

    Hi there

    Yawn, Yawn , Mega more Yawn.
    Forbes and his ilk are just as worthless as Gartner etc.

    For instance he says He doesn't like Windows 7 either -- please note Ray8 -- so if he's a colleague of yours what do you feel about W7 or should we all stick with XP.

    Another issue - he says touch is FORCED on to users --you don't have to get ANYWHERE near touch if you don't want to .
    And the most BOVINE remark of all -- Users will be forced to change the way they work -- well if set up properly --especially in a Workplace environment where most apps are probably pinned to the desktop / quick launch bar - users barely have to change ANYTHING.

    If this article is written by a technical guy -- well it doesn't say much for their experience with ACTUAL USERS or even how users work in an office etc.

    I think you can safely IGNORE all those articles by so called "experts".

    If person A doesn't like it that's his / her prerogative. I can well imagine how someone used to Windows 3.11 won't like it.

    IMO even at work the guys who seem to be most afraid of using new technology seem to be the I.T admins who take great pleasure in having loads of text based consoles covered with all sorts of scripts that make the old Egyptian symbols in the Valley of Kings look like a kindergarten ABC. (I suppose the IT guys realize it'll probably make their jobs more difficult - but that IMO isn't a valid excuse for using new technology if it makes the END USERS job easier).

    Most of the people I've shown it to quite like it actually - even people used to previous versions of Windows -- but W8 does need to be set up so people don't get lost trying to get out of those metro screens. The GUI does need to be changed a bit - but the overall OS isn't met with anything like the hostility some people on this Forum seem to have for it.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Well said Jimbo.

    Although I think the main problem is the author feels that because Metro Apps are there, he has to use them. As a result, the whole OS gets slated because of Metro Apps, when in reality he could just ignore Metro Apps. To be fair, although I don't mind the Start Page, I don't like Metro Apps either and so just stick with normal desktop applications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARC1020 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post

    Hi there

    Yawn, Yawn , Mega more Yawn.
    Forbes and his ilk are just as worthless as Gartner etc.

    For instance he says He doesn't like Windows 7 either -- please note Ray8 -- so if he's a colleague of yours what do you feel about W7 or should we all stick with XP.

    Another issue - he says touch is FORCED on to users --you don't have to get ANYWHERE near touch if you don't want to .
    And the most BOVINE remark of all -- Users will be forced to change the way they work -- well if set up properly --especially in a Workplace environment where most apps are probably pinned to the desktop / quick launch bar - users barely have to change ANYTHING.

    If this article is written by a technical guy -- well it doesn't say much for their experience with ACTUAL USERS or even how users work in an office etc.

    I think you can safely IGNORE all those articles by so called "experts".

    If person A doesn't like it that's his / her prerogative. I can well imagine how someone used to Windows 3.11 won't like it.

    IMO even at work the guys who seem to be most afraid of using new technology seem to be the I.T admins who take great pleasure in having loads of text based consoles covered with all sorts of scripts that make the old Egyptian symbols in the Valley of Kings look like a kindergarten ABC. (I suppose the IT guys realize it'll probably make their jobs more difficult - but that IMO isn't a valid excuse for using new technology if it makes the END USERS job easier).

    Most of the people I've shown it to quite like it actually - even people used to previous versions of Windows -- but W8 does need to be set up so people don't get lost trying to get out of those metro screens. The GUI does need to be changed a bit - but the overall OS isn't met with anything like the hostility some people on this Forum seem to have for it.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Well said Jimbo.

    Although I think the main problem is the author feels that because Metro Apps are there, he has to use them. As a result, the whole OS gets slated because of Metro Apps, when in reality he could just ignore Metro Apps. To be fair, although I don't mind the Start Page, I don't like Metro Apps either and so just stick with normal desktop applications.
    The trouble is some people just feel that one second of looking at the Start Screen, the MPI, is just the most horrible experience in their lives, strange but true. And not having the Start Menu well that's even worse even though a lot of people never even used it.
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    The author's general point is widely held.

    MS have a problem. A lot of people do not like what MS are offereing.

    The author hopes Blue ( or whatever they call it ) will improve the situation.

    When he says 99% it is obvious to anyone not dead from the neck up that he using it in the conversational sense.

    It isn't hard to understand.
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