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Forbes Win 8 is the first Windows I hate

  1. #111


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by bluezr1 View Post
    You can still sit back in your chair, you just need a mouse like this one.

    Logitech T650 Wireless Rechargeable Touchpad Review & Rating | PCMag.com

    Or this one

    Microsoft Wedge Touch Mouse Review & Rating | PCMag.com

    They gives you all the options that you see on modern day cellphones. Two finger scrolling, pinch to zoom ect.. Next time you visit a store that sells laptops, play around with the touch pad.
    Touch pads have never worked for me, my fingers must either be too oily or something, as touch pads don't do what they are supposed to do. The mouse depicted is also another form of touch pad, so in all likelihood, it'll be just as frustrating.

    But at the end of the day, a traditional mouse works fine for me, whether it's just clicking on links, highlighting text and copying and pasting, moving things about etc. It's one of the most ergonomic and functional tools ever devised for a PC.

    BTW, I hate mobile phones with touch screens, as Jimbo pointed out. I gave up my smartphone and bought a traditional one because it has a regular keypad and other tactile buttons for answering/finishing calls, finding contacts, calendar, messaging etc.

    Newer is not always better.

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  2. #112


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    You go ahead if you like.

    I have no idea why you imagine somebody is holding you back.


    Quote Originally Posted by bluezr1 View Post
    I happen to like it, and I shouldn't be held back because of a few who refuse to upgrade a piece of hardware to go along with the upgrade of windows 8.
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  3. #113


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    Win7 & 8 64bit / Linux Mint 14


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    You go ahead if you like.

    I have no idea why you imagine somebody is holding you back.


    Quote Originally Posted by bluezr1 View Post
    I happen to like it, and I shouldn't be held back because of a few who refuse to upgrade a piece of hardware to go along with the upgrade of windows 8.
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  4. #114


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    Windows 8.1 'Ultimate' RTM 64 bit (Pro/WMC).


    Quote Originally Posted by bluezr1 View Post
    And before someone complains that they shouldn't have to purchase a new mouse to take full advantage of windows 8, then don't upgrade. I happen to like it, and I shouldn't be held back because of a few who refuse to upgrade a piece of hardware to go along with the upgrade of windows 8.

    I have windows 8 on a media center PC (as well as a few others) and the pinch to doom in a browser is the bomb. And the really cool part is, it keeps just that tab zoomed in while leaving all of the other tabs at their default setting. And you can bounce back and forth from the start menu and windows desktop by just tapping the windows key.
    You don't. It works just fine with my 3-year-old $15 USB cordless mouse, which is certainly nothing special.
    But I'll be continuing to use it.Not interested in 'touch' in the slightest on my desktop/laptop.
    There is no need to 'upgrade' your mouse to use Win 8 unless you've had it since Win 3.1 or 95, which only
    took advantage of ONE button and had no scroll.

    Wenda.
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  5. #115


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    Windows 10 (64 bit)


    And another potential Windows 8 headache:

    Microsoft's new security patching routine raises concerns


    Microsoft just released its first acknowledged security update for a Metro app -- and the new patching method is a disaster waiting to happen


    ...Microsoft is treading a very fine line here. On the desktop side, legions of beleaguered network admins labor feverishly with every wave of Windows Update patches, testing, begging, and praying that nothing will break when each patch goes out. Their (quite legitimate) concerns and bloodied noses have led to the very structured way that Microsoft now releases patches for the old-fashioned desktop.

    So far, I don't know of any network admins who are fretting over Metro security patches, but that's bound to change. It remains to be seen how Microsoft will accommodate their problems -- and how many botched patches it will take to bring back some of the old precautions.
    Microsoft's new security patching routine raises concerns | Microsoft windows - InfoWorld
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  6. #116


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    there's no way you would have known you were installing a security patch.

    • There's no warning when you install the patch.
    • You can't roll the patch back.
    • There are no version numbers and no revision history. Quick, can you tell me right now if your copy of Metro Mail -- the one you're running on your Windows 8 or Windows RT machine at this very moment -- has this latest patch?


    Great idea - nothing could possibly go wrong.
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  7. #117


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    This sucks.
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  8. #118


    Posts : 2,627
    win8.1.1 enterprise


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I think it is more like 92% of desktops and lappys.



    2. The general public do know about Mac - but the entry price is around $1400 in the uk - not an option for the majority.
    i paid $2100.00 cdn for my first win95 Pentium 166 ,my sister bought a new ibm with p90 with all the bells and whistles a few years before me ,she paid $3200.oo cdn ,printer and other items with it , so i think it not the cost of Apple computer that we stay away, it more likely because windows based computer can be bought for under $500.00cdn
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  9. #119


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I think it is more like 92% of desktops and lappys.



    2. The general public do know about Mac - but the entry price is around $1400 in the uk - not an option for the majority.
    i paid $2100.00 cdn for my first win95 Pentium 166 ,my sister bought a new ibm with p90 with all the bells and whistles a few years before me ,she paid $3200.oo cdn ,printer and other items with it , so i think it not the cost of Apple computer that we stay away, it more likely because windows based computer can be bought for under $500.00cdn
    LOL, that is not a very logical conclusion.
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  10. #120


    A few gems...
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke
    As Windows 8 becomes more and more touch centric, the PC industry will have to adapt. .... Over time, Windows 8 and touch PCs will outnumber the Windows 7 and mouse enabled PCs, leaving those users in a small niche of the market developers don't develop for,
    and then
    Quote Originally Posted by bluerz
    if you're using an old touch pad or a traditional mouse I can see why all the hatred. And that would only mean that they didn't update a critical piece of hardware.
    LOL! If you think that you can dislodge the mouse from its first place as most useful hardware, I wish you good luck! The whole point of using a computer is that you have a mouse. Replacing mice by our fingers is an aberration. For 200,000 years humans have been striving to get tools in their hands and now you want to remove tools from our hands? Have you seen the diameter of a finger? How is it more accurate than a stylus or a mouse or any other pointing deice?
    Quote Originally Posted by WHS
    When I joined the local computer club a few years ago I expected to find a bunch of young geeks that would help me learn something. Instead I found 800 members that are all (with very few exceptions) over 60 years old.
    Indeed, the new generation is not interrested in learning what's under the hood. They buy new things and start off the shelve. Habits are changing. 10 years ago I was an expert in DiX encoding. Today, kids watch everything on YouTube and DSL TV. You get plenty of stuffs just by reaching the most accessible sources.
    By the time your PC gets slow due to accumulatewares, it's already obsolete. We don't even bother reinstalling an OS because eerybody is on laptops ruined by coffee spills or monitor cracks before you need any reinstall.
    You don't like much Metro style? Never mind, your next laptop will come with something else.
    At least the Metro Start Screen address one issue: Poeple don;t need to Google "Facebook" anytime they want to write some message or send pictures. LOL.
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