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  1. #181


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    Shaw Industries, a flooring company, recently moved more than 10,000 employees to Google Apps from Lotus but keeps some people on Microsoft Office.
    I can't believe that there are still companies in the world that make their employees suffer Lotus!

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  2. #182


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    "I've always wanted to play Crysis 3 on Ubuntu!" -Said LITERALLY, no one ever.
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  3. #183


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    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Maybe Google is ahead of the curve afterall with its Chromebook and everything available from the cloud.
    Google is also giving M$ some pain on Office also.

    Google, Microsoft turn up office heat
    google docs is AWFULLY insignificant (at least the amount that was told in the article about 1,200 workers) compared to several governments on Office 365, DuPont, and several other recent corporations stating they're moving to Office 365 within a year or so.

    The question hasn't been do you want Microsoft or Microsoft? That's simply not true when there have been alternatives, but those weren't so great obviously. google docs isn't really different. The question should be do you want a Mercedes Benz or do you want a Ford Fiesta?
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  4. #184


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    "I've always wanted to play Crysis 3 on Ubuntu!" -Said LITERALLY, no one ever.
    That really is quite a stupid statement. Considering that the hardware would be the same, which is usually the driving factor for high performance PC games, if Crysis 3 was designed to work with Ubuntu, Mint or whatever, would the experience be any worse?

    And when you shoot yourself in the foot, you don't just use a regular gun, you tend to pick nothing less than a chain gun: CryEngine 3 New Game is Coming to Linux | Linux Game News, CryEngine 3 Coming to Linux? ~ Ubuntu Vibes | Daily Ubuntu Linux Updates.

    BillWindows lives on every time you post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    "I've always wanted to play Crysis 3 on Ubuntu!" -Said LITERALLY, no one ever.
    That really is quite a stupid statement. Considering that the hardware would be the same, which is usually the driving factor for high performance PC games, if Crysis 3 was designed to work with Ubuntu, Mint or whatever, would the experience be any worse?
    It quite possibly could be, yes.

    Keep in mind the client-side code was built and tuned specifically for DirectX. Porting that over to OpenGL isn't just a hop, skip, and a jump and generally its easier to plan future games to be portable, than to mess with existing clients that weren't written with that portability in mind. In most instances, the latter tends to be an absolute clusterf**k.

    Its like trying to swap out the engine of a car for another brand. If the connections were built with both engines in mind, you're good.. if not, you'll have to get everything to match up to the existing connections.

    Is it doable? Sure, but plan for pain. I wouldn't want to be That Guy, invariably that type of thing turns into a neverending whack-a-mole of issues to sort through. Whats insidious is on the surface it seems like it should be a breeze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    "I've always wanted to play Crysis 3 on Ubuntu!" -Said LITERALLY, no one ever.
    That really is quite a stupid statement. Considering that the hardware would be the same, which is usually the driving factor for high performance PC games, if Crysis 3 was designed to work with Ubuntu, Mint or whatever, would the experience be any worse?

    And when you shoot yourself in the foot, you don't just use a regular gun, you tend to pick nothing less than a chain gun: CryEngine 3 New Game is Coming to Linux | Linux Game News, CryEngine 3 Coming to Linux? ~ Ubuntu Vibes | Daily Ubuntu Linux Updates.

    BillWindows lives on every time you post.
    You're not even getting the point. Literally, there are very few games on Linux that can be played.
    Alienware’s latest gaming PC has Linux on it, plays “over 25 games” | Ars Technica
    If read the ACTUAL significant details about the Alienware box with Ubuntu, you see it can play about 25 games. TWENTY FIVE games, NINETY SEVEN if you're on Steam. Compare this to about 1,900 game titles on Windows, using Ubuntu is more cost and reward. You end up having to install Windows 7 or 8 to get that collection. If you ask any PC gamer if they would do Ubuntu over Windows, not many would. The idea would sound great, but in practice, it's not worth the while. It doesn't matter what the hardware is between a Ubuntu machine or a Windows PC, if you can't play more than 100 games, you might as well be content with a Wii U.

    I can tell YOU still live on in your posts......
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  7. #187


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    "I've always wanted to play Crysis 3 on Ubuntu!" -Said LITERALLY, no one ever.
    That really is quite a stupid statement. Considering that the hardware would be the same, which is usually the driving factor for high performance PC games, if Crysis 3 was designed to work with Ubuntu, Mint or whatever, would the experience be any worse?

    And when you shoot yourself in the foot, you don't just use a regular gun, you tend to pick nothing less than a chain gun: CryEngine 3 New Game is Coming to Linux | Linux Game News, CryEngine 3 Coming to Linux? ~ Ubuntu Vibes | Daily Ubuntu Linux Updates.

    BillWindows lives on every time you post.
    You're not even getting the point. Literally, there are very few games on Linux that can be played.
    Alienware’s latest gaming PC has Linux on it, plays “over 25 games” | Ars Technica
    If read the ACTUAL significant details about the Alienware box with Ubuntu, you see it can play about 25 games. TWENTY FIVE games, NINETY SEVEN if you're on Steam. Compare this to about 1,900 game titles on Windows, using Ubuntu is more cost and reward. You end up having to install Windows 7 or 8 to get that collection. If you ask any PC gamer if they would do Ubuntu over Windows, not many would. The idea would sound great, but in practice, it's not worth the while. It doesn't matter what the hardware is between a Ubuntu machine or a Windows PC, if you can't play more than 100 games, you might as well be content with a Wii U.

    I can tell YOU still live on in your posts......
    Sadly, you don't get the point. You give an example, which immediately shoots your foot off and then you rant about the current status quo. We are not talking about what is now, but what potentially is in future. On the one hand, you talk about the future of Windows, but deny the future of anything else. Basically, you're in denial.
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  8. #188


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    "I've always wanted to play Crysis 3 on Ubuntu!" -Said LITERALLY, no one ever.
    That really is quite a stupid statement. Considering that the hardware would be the same, which is usually the driving factor for high performance PC games, if Crysis 3 was designed to work with Ubuntu, Mint or whatever, would the experience be any worse?

    And when you shoot yourself in the foot, you don't just use a regular gun, you tend to pick nothing less than a chain gun: CryEngine 3 New Game is Coming to Linux | Linux Game News, CryEngine 3 Coming to Linux? ~ Ubuntu Vibes | Daily Ubuntu Linux Updates.

    BillWindows lives on every time you post.
    You're not even getting the point. Literally, there are very few games on Linux that can be played.
    Alienware’s latest gaming PC has Linux on it, plays “over 25 games” | Ars Technica
    If read the ACTUAL significant details about the Alienware box with Ubuntu, you see it can play about 25 games. TWENTY FIVE games, NINETY SEVEN if you're on Steam. Compare this to about 1,900 game titles on Windows, using Ubuntu is more cost and reward. You end up having to install Windows 7 or 8 to get that collection. If you ask any PC gamer if they would do Ubuntu over Windows, not many would. The idea would sound great, but in practice, it's not worth the while. It doesn't matter what the hardware is between a Ubuntu machine or a Windows PC, if you can't play more than 100 games, you might as well be content with a Wii U.

    I can tell YOU still live on in your posts......
    Pretty much.. and most major PC-only games come out with a Linux version sometime between release and never. Even OS X support for the Macintosh PC can often be delayed until the game is successful. I do applaud Steam and Alienware for giving Linux a go, but they have an uphill battle to really make it popular such that developers plan for it along with the PC and/or Mac.

    I'm really looking forward to between now and the end of the year and into next and hope that Trion Worlds(Defiance), Blizzard(Titan), and SOE(EQ Next) can really catch some fire with their new games. All sound like they're trying to do something a bit different. How successful they'll be remains to be seen.

    The Defiance MMO is basically tying into the TV Series coming to Syfy on the 15th. Actions on the TV show will be reflected in game and they're looking to have cross-media stuff.

    EQ Next was originally going to be another iteration of Everquest that did more of the same, but they saw what happened to The Old Republic, scrapped that idea, and are creating some type of new Sandbox MMO that will be released at the end of the year that is less railed content and more dynamic in nature ala Eve, with absolutely no instances.

    Blizzard sounds like they're doing a more sci-fi version of WoW, amped to 11 and then amped to 11 again with some huge story involving time travelling or something or other thats supposed to be the greatest thing in the history of man... or something. Not a lot of details.
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    The question should be do you want a Mercedes Benz or do you want a Ford Fiesta?
    I would have liked my Mercedes at a Ford Fiesta price, but Mercedes did not play. They made me pay their full price.
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  10. #190


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    I am posting this from my self made little mint based distro. Fabulous. ( @whs Ubuntu 13.04 final beta is out - release expected 25th april )

    I am not interested in gaming from here.

    What is interesting is that attempts are now being made to get Linux into the games.

    It has to start somewhere.
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