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Microsoft makes 1st Windows Embedded 8 releases available

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    Microsoft makes 1st Windows Embedded 8 releases available


    Back in November 2012, Microsoft officials said the first of its Windows Embedded 8 offerings would be available in March. Right on schedule, on March 20, the two primary SKUs of Microsoft's latest embedded Windows product family were made available for download.


    Windows Embedded 8 is a componentized version of Windows 8 with additional technologies that adapt Windows for use in and on specialized devices.

    Windows Embedded 8 Standard and Windows Embedded 8 Pro are available immediately for OEMs interested in building devices and systems with Windows 8 inside. The releases will be available on Get Windows Embedded 8. Windows Embedded 8 Standard also is available from Microsoft's Download Center.

    Read more at source:
    Microsoft makes first of its Windows Embedded 8 releases generally available | ZDNet


    See also:
    Get Windows Embedded 8

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    Interesting.
    Thanks Shawn and have a great day ...
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    Hi there

    Looks good.
    I suppose this is intended to be used in devices like Mobile phones. I could also see this as useful in those places which have public displays - for instance Weather, News or traffic info - especially when there is a dedicated screen. (Airports / railway stations etc). This is where the Metro apps could be of significant use.

    What this really could do with though would be a method of switching Metro apps automatically say after a fixed period (1 min for example) which would make those airport / train stations screens more interesting and possibly another area would be to incorporate a bar code reader device so stock etc could easily be checked with a hand held device and sent to a back end system without needing huge expensive ERP software like SAP or ORACLE. Smaller businesses might find this useful too.

    The whole CE idea has been around since Windows 3.11 days -- but it's now that these types of devices should come into their own and an embedded OS has a great deal to go for it if Ms gets together with some of the hardware manufacturers rather than just issue the OS and sit back.

    Windows 8 CE could easily overtake Windows 8 on the desktop as the scope for use in handheld / other fixed devices is almost unlimited. - What about a "Smarter" TV for example. (Note I don't mean you'd run Embedded windows on a desktop - just the NUMBER of windows 8 embedded licenses will exceed the number of standard Windows 8 ones).

    As far as use in phones is concerned - updating the OS in the phone would be really simple -- for some phones these days updating Android releases can be very hit and miss and often after updating some apps don't work etc etc. The security would also be STREETS ahead of Android -- OK when on the Phone network security might be OK but how many people use their phones on public Wifi systems - with Chrome --I don't even think the word SECURITY exists on that browser.

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    Point Of Sale terminals maybe?

    How did that old joke go? The new windows release is made up of CE, ME and NT.
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    Hi there
    Ms could be on to a HUGE winner with this one. I don't think "The Fruit company" would even KNOW what these are - much less devise an OS for one.

    Interesting people like Motorola are on board -- This is where Ms needs to be as revenues from its consumer divisions must inevitably fall -- for all sorts of reasons and nothing to do with Windows 8.

    People just don't NEED to update their hardware that often any more so once you've sold say a license of Windows that's IT for say the next 10 years for that person. Office versions last even longer --Office 2003 and even Office 97 probably do more than most people actually ever use.

    Competing types of mobile devices also make the use of desktop computers significantly less than before -- Soon the traditional desktop will essentially be restricted to workplaces and specialized hobbyists (gamers etc) with home users only very occasionally using them.

    A slow long drawn out lingering decline will ensure Ms keeps a healthy revenue for a good while yet - but without new products and sources of income Ms will eventually like so many other seemingly invincible companies eventually disappear.

    Getting involved in this sort of hardware and providing an OS for it seems a great way to go. - Not sure though how I'd react if my car was stranded and it said "Please connect to the Ms server to update your subscription which has now expired". (Well I would know but I'm not saying. !!).

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    I definitely see Windows 8 Embedded being in Point Of Sale terminals. Actually, it already is in a good chunk of them already with Windows Xp Compact Embedded, like in Redboxes, self-check out stands, CoinStars I think, and POS terminals of companies that run a Microsoft powered enterprise.

    Windows 8 would be a GOOD improvement. It could bring new POS terminals based off more efficient hardware that is power efficient, better touch support and that fun stuff.

    On mobile, I actually read a few months back that The Home Depot will be using Windows 8 Embedded on these phones they have to better handle customer orders, service requests and such. The live tile UI better supports that than the traditional model of simple static icons.
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    Although I've never understood how Microsoft is able to get a full installation of Windows Embedded to be 4 gigs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Although I've never understood how Microsoft is able to get a full installation of Windows Embedded to be 4 gigs!
    Stuff you would never use or need is striped out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Although I've never understood how Microsoft is able to get a full installation of Windows Embedded to be 4 gigs!
    Stuff you would never use or need is striped out?
    Doubt it, as EVERYTHING, I mean EVERYTHING is in a full install of Windows Embedded. It's weird, every bit of the Desktop features and UI are there, as well as advanced boot options I believe. Nothing is stripped.

    I think it has to do with something pertaining to how Windows NT 6 operates, as that is literally 4 times the size of Windows xp/NT 5 kernel. xp took about 4 gigs, vista takes 16, as well as 7 as well as 8 to an extent, although it's more like 13 or so. That's not the whole operating system, but it's probably due to the system keeping a double copy of system files to use for Automatic Repair and such. There isn't an install.wim file as that would take a while to unpack that when Automatic Repair runs, but those files are there unpacked on the drive, not visible through the UI. That would make the most sense as back with xp to do something like that, you needed the install CD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Although I've never understood how Microsoft is able to get a full installation of Windows Embedded to be 4 gigs!
    Stuff you would never use or need is striped out?
    Doubt it, as EVERYTHING, I mean EVERYTHING is in a full install of Windows Embedded. It's weird, every bit of the Desktop features and UI are there, as well as advanced boot options I believe. Nothing is stripped.
    What does the Desktop Features and UI have to do with anything?They more than likely stripped a lot of stuff needed for backwards compatibility to off-color systems and older legacy code and what not. As long as they know they're only going to one specific platform and don't have to have support in there for all of them, there is a lot of stuff they can drop.
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