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  1. #61


    After thinking on this awhile, I'm thinking this must be a pretty big project if the speculation is true that it's 20 months away. Could it be a new OS code-named Blue, but named Windows 9 or another name? The last two were numbered, so I'm assuming it'll be 9. Who here knows the history and timeline on when they start to develop their next OS? I would think immediately?

    I would imagine they have an idea of what direction they want to go in their overall business plan, especially with the big change of 8 along with the Surfaces. There must be much consideration of market demand/desire and user data they collect from past OSs. Technical advances in hardware also. I would think much discussion in many meetings of planning would be undertaken before any code is written. If so, how long would that take? It's mind boggling to me. They invest millions on develpement and marketing.

    I think the Start Screen will stay, but with some improvements, such as tiles opening to or exploding to more "subtiles" like in a submenu as in the past. The Start Screen gets to get rather large otherwise. The idea of windowing Modern apps such as with ModernMix is something I think they will consider, for there is much complaint as to this. "After all, it is called Windows". But, then again they need to keep the desktop to perform this. Perhaps it'll be another type of " personalized multipane user screen" where one can open multiple apps there. It will be able to be saved for use again and again. Sort of like the old desktop, but within the Modern GUI.

    The big question I have is whether or not the desktop will remain. I don't know enough about writing code to know whether or not all software can be written in the Modern interface within Window Store apps. Some say they can't, some say yes. If it can be, then I would think the desktop would go eventually. No need for it then.

    Of course, a lot depends on market trends. How and what are people using to compute nowadays? Consumption and/or creating? It seems we don't want to sit behind our desktop PCs any longer, although it is still much needed in business. Desktop PCs have flatlined. More pads and cell phones being sold for sure. Societies are more mobile. Data is almost instantaneous with the speed of our infrastructure (including more free WiFi hotspots) and hardware. We don't need the "leash" of a wire as much. The internet is billions of pages big. A lot of information at hand. The Cloud is another item.

    All in all, I would imagine there is much to consider when creating another OS. It must be exciting to be a part of it.

    Those are some of my thoughts today. I hope I've added just a little to your original intent of your thread, Lee. Y'all have a good weekend!
    Last edited by HippsieGypsie; 22 Mar 2013 at 12:58.

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  2. #62


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    Hi Hippssie,

    I would think immediately. The first month is probably just setting around and brainstorming which is the part of any project that I really liked doing the best. When planning to build a new ship (Marine Engineer) it was always fun to just set and draw up designs, propulsion ideas, etc.. To see the final ideas in one ideal was always the saddest part because it was now finished and time to move to the next project.

    . . .and yes you did add to what I was looking for; insight.
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  3. #63


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    Windows 95 was being planned in 1992, 2 years after Windows 3.0 was released, and just before Windows 3.11 and NT were released. Microsoft was trying to make sure it could compete with IBM's OS/2, both in stability and with interface design.

    NT itself was a fork of OS/2 from the days of cooperation between IBM and MS on the project. Microsoft decided to release it with the familiar Windows Program Manager, rather than the object based desktop it acquired later.

    The IBM Workplace Shell was the forerunner of the Windows Desktop, but the other advantage was that OS/2 could run a Virtual DOS machine, and Windows 3.0 upon that.

    Still, IBM managed to misunderstand the PC market, yet again, and lost out to Microsoft, despite the advances in OS/2 3.0 WARP, failing to get OEM support, and forgetting that users needed their devices to have OS/2 drivers to work properly. Oh, and the most complicated and long-winded OS Installation ever!
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  4. #64


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    Thanks Lee, that's exactly what I was hoping it would do. I still can't believe why Microsoft didn't provide this from the outset, it was so bleeding obvious.
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  5. #65


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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    After thinking on this awhile, I'm thinking this must be a pretty big project if the speculation is true that it's 20 months away. Could it be a new OS code-named Blue, but named Windows 9 or another name? The last two were numbered, so I'm assuming it'll be 9. Who here knows the history and timeline on when they start to develop their next OS? I would think immediately?
    "Blue" will be released sometime in the summer. Its rumored to have the support for smaller screens, better touchscreen, amongst other things. It'll be a free update of Windows 8.

    Windows 9 is Windows 9 and should be released at the end of 2014.

    And they don't develop stuff back-to-back or whatever, you'll have overlap. So something like Blue and Windows 9 would be developed concurrently(with Windows 9 development probably started a while before 8 was even released), with anything they put in Blue or Windows 8 also being carried into Windows 9.
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  6. #66


    Yes, "Blue" is gonna be an improved version of Windows 8, especially regarding touch !



    The public preview will be avaiable in Q2 2013

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  7. #67


    @ chrisa

    Thanks for that info on timeline. So, Blue will be an SP1.

    @ Vlad

    Thanks. Q4/13 it is then. I saw that video posted on another thread, but haven't been able to watch it yet.
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  8. #68


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Does ModernMix allow you to move the apps to the second screen and use the desktop at the same time?
    Yes.
    With DisplayFusion, UltraMon, or some other similar program the "move" button is an option you see placed to the left of the minimise-maximise buttons on every window you open. I imagine the same would be seen for Metro apps also being opened in a windowed mode rather then the need to drag each over from one display to the next. This is provided you use the extended desktop not cloned desktop mode. The programs also offer the extended smart bar to supplement the main task bar on the extended as well.

    Now the word on Blue is that was one blog's referral to MS releasing a totally free Windows not as any upgrade to 8 or SP1 but a totally different free release while likely being limited in a number of ways as far as what you can do on it. So actually What is Windows Blue? since that was brought up.

    What is Windows Blue?

    Simply put, Windows Blue is Microsoft’s new strategy when it comes to updating their popular Windows OS. Instead of waiting two or three years to bring out new features, Microsoft is going to take things up a notch.
    While everything we know about Blue has been pieced together by keeping our ear to the wall, we now believe that Windows Blue is the first of possibly many yearly updates to Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8. At the same time, it is also the replacement to traditional service packs.
    In the past, Service Packs were used to bring critical fixes and even performance updates over to Windows, but largely didn’t add much if anything when it came to new features. In that way, Windows Blue is like a “Service Pack Plus” – bringing everything you are used to getting in a service pack along with a few new features that just can’t wait until the next major Windows release.

    Rather then seeing any 8SE like you saw way back with a 98SE or Second Edition you now have a go between release version type release.
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  9. #69


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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Does ModernMix allow you to move the apps to the second screen and use the desktop at the same time?
    Yes.
    With DisplayFusion, UltraMon, or some other similar program the "move" button is an option you see placed to the left of the minimise-maximise buttons on every window you open. I imagine the same would be seen for Metro apps also being opened in a windowed mode rather then the need to drag each over from one display to the next. This is provided you use the extended desktop not cloned desktop mode. The programs also offer the extended smart bar to supplement the main task bar on the extended as well.

    Now the word on Blue is that was one blog's referral to MS releasing a totally free Windows not as any upgrade to 8 or SP1 but a totally different free release while likely being limited in a number of ways as far as what you can do on it. So actually What is Windows Blue? since that was brought up.

    What is Windows Blue?

    Simply put, Windows Blue is Microsoft’s new strategy when it comes to updating their popular Windows OS. Instead of waiting two or three years to bring out new features, Microsoft is going to take things up a notch.
    While everything we know about Blue has been pieced together by keeping our ear to the wall, we now believe that Windows Blue is the first of possibly many yearly updates to Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8. At the same time, it is also the replacement to traditional service packs.
    In the past, Service Packs were used to bring critical fixes and even performance updates over to Windows, but largely didn’t add much if anything when it came to new features. In that way, Windows Blue is like a “Service Pack Plus” – bringing everything you are used to getting in a service pack along with a few new features that just can’t wait until the next major Windows release.

    Rather then seeing any 8SE like you saw way back with a 98SE or Second Edition you now have a go between release version type release.
    Thanks. Was looking for this article a couple of times to attempt to explain the reason for Blue and any new updates. This is Microsoft idea of coming up with updates instead of SPs.
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  10. #70


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    I suspect this is something new MS will be trying out as a way to add new things without a lot of problems when wanting to see not only OS fixes but new features added in. If this will preserve the existing programs files already installed it could be a much smoother ride to apply updates then running into things failing to work after an update or BSODs at times from a bad update install. Plus MS can insure people are running the SP1 or SP2 without the manual effort if they have the automatic disbled when applying Blue.

    At present MS is dumping SP1 on everyone automatically yet has no plans for any SP2! That would make Vista as the last to see a second service pack.
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