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The Non-Touch Windows 8 Offers a Worse Experience than Win

  1. #51


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    Can we have a barf fest and see who can regurgitate that same garbage for the longest period of time?

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  2. #52


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    LOL.

    Going on the available information and irrespective of whether we like it personally:

    The reality is it is not selling well.

    The reality is a lot of people do not like it.

    We can pretend that is not the case.

    Or we can acknowledge the truth and maybe the deal breakers will get fixed.

    MS is fortunate there is no competition. I don't think they would have proceeded like this if there was. They can have another go.
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  3. #53


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    LOL.

    Going on the available information and irrespective of whether we like it personally:

    The reality is it is not selling well.

    The reality is a lot of people do not like it.

    We can pretend that is not the case.

    Or we can acknowledge the truth and maybe the deal breakers will get fixed.

    MS is fortunate there is no competition. I don't think they would have proceeded like this if there was. They can have another go.
    Ten, Nine, Eight, Seven, Six, Five, Four, Three, Two, One, Lift-off

    Now it's time to leave Windows 7 if you dare.
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  4. #54


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    If you dare?

    LOL, anyone would think it was frightening rather than unsuitable.

    No need to be frightened Bill. Did you find it scary? You need to get out more.
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  5. #55


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    If you dare?

    LOL, anyone would think it was frightening rather than unsuitable.

    No need to be frightened Bill. Did you find it scary? You need to get out more.
    I thought you knew David Bowie, guess not.

    I use it on all my computers why would I find it scary.
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  6. #56


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    Because you said "if you dare". Dare suggests what , exactly?

    Bowie - some of it before my time - his new album is interesting.
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  7. #57


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    A single journalist may be wrong and it easy to criticize the poor fellow. But how about real users that spent hard earned money for the thing. This afternoon I was reading thru comments of users that bought Windows 8 from Newegg (or felt inclined to post their views on their site). There are over 100 pages and I encourage you to read some of it here - regardless which edition. Here is a small selection that I collected. In all fairness I have to say that there were also some positive comments - far and apart.

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    Good OS for people with very little experience with computers. If you don't understand computers, and don't want to understand computers, this will work for you.
    Windows 8? What I was looking for: A solid OS that was simple and easy to use. It would allow me to access my files without trouble and would run games just fine. What happened: None of that. Windows 8 treats you like an idiot child. You have to pay a 3rd party for the start bar. A great tradition that windows has always had available you now have to pay for. Microsoft failed so vastly. There are all sorts of bugs that they aren't fixing. The sleep mode is not effective, just a poorly run OS.
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    Pros: "Metro" is for tablets/phone and teenagers. Switching to desktop and using classic shell makes this version of windows tolerable. I actually could live with the desktop version of 8 with the classic shell add on...but the weirdness of 8 still pops up from time to time.
    Cons: There is no need for anyone using a desktop to upgrade from Windows 7, none. The Metro interface is horrid.
    Other Thoughts: I ran Windows 8 Pro for two months and went back to version 7 Pro on both our home desktops. Will wait to see what Balmer decides on the next "version" and perhaps I will reload 8 if they fix it. I love Windows 7 and see no need to leave it right now...it's going to be supported until 2020 at least. Save your dollars on version 8 for now.
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    Pros: Sad to say none
    Cons: No start menu to begin with, and then it is all down hill from there. Way to go Microsoft, you did it again. Did not think it was possible to get worse than Vista. Really regret buying it, just ordered Windows 7 Pro so I can use my 32 Gig of ram, other wise I could have use my Win 7 home premium instead but it is capped at 16 Gig of ram.
    Really tired of companies piecing things out in increments. Just make a software that works for all users and be done with it you greedy dirt bags! I better quit typing now, before I really say what I am thinking. :-)
    Other Thoughts: I have no more thoughts left. Microsoft drove them all out! :-(
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    Pros: reminds me of windows millennium and that wallways makes me that always make me laugh allot.
    Cons: I paid top $ for a Notebook and got a OS that should be on a mobile device !. Well I returnd the unit the very next day.
    Other Thoughts: The only good feeling I got out Win 8 was bring it back for a refund.
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    Pros: Runs faster than xp on old single core machines.
    Cons: Might be OK on small hand held devices but is totally a PITA on desktops and laptops.I can't believe that most new computers are shipped with this mess.
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    Pros: You can stick with Windows 7
    Cons: Very un-informative navigation and incompatible with many programs for Windows 7 and below. Grand Theft Auto IV will not work on this OS. The fast boot is bugged not loading my BD drive as well.
    Other Thoughts: Stick with Windows 7
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    Pros: Since I'm not using it on a tablet pc, but a desktop, I see no "pros" to this O.S.
    Cons: Start up screen. I don't want "apps." E-mail will not work with my POP3 e-mail account. Can't find anything, easily. Intel's SSD toolbox has problems with it, there goes the expensive SSD drive I bought for my new system.
    Other Thoughts: I thought Windows Me was bad (remember that one), but 8 is a new low. It might work great for a tablet PC, but some of us still work and play on desktops. They should have called this Windows Tablet, and kept it separate from desktop Windows 7. Burned again, by Microsoft.
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    As a software developer I *have* to support this poor excuse for an OS. This is worse than the Vista fiasco. I avoid using Wait (W8) as much as I can, other than for testing. I've programmed for *every* version of Windows since 2.11 so I know the product.

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    Pros: none that I can see so far. Came installed on a new laptop we just bought. Another pro, is you can always reformat your drive and install Windows 7
    Cons: Want to see what's in your hard drive? Too bad. Want to operate from a start menu? Too bad. Want to downgrade to Windows 7 with the same license? Too bad. That's what this OS is. Too Bad.
    Other Thoughts: If I wanted to use Windows Phone, I'd buy a Windows phone. Since I have no desire to own a Windows phone, because they suck, it's terribad. It's bdong (Kung Pao - Enter the Fist reference). There really needs to be a new word to describe how bad this is.
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  8. #58


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    LOL. You could probably find a few who liked it as well.

    Not too dissimilar from the kind of comments all round. I am sure MS know what they ought to fix if they want people to willingly choose their os in large numbers.

    They might not. They can use their monopoly power to shove a lot of things through.
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  9. #59


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    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Because you said "if you dare". Dare suggests what , exactly?

    Bowie - some of it before my time - his new album is interesting.
    You see you just don't understand, you shouldn't bring things up that you don't understand.
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  10. #60


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Pros: Very Fast
    All my programs and games work
    Cons: Two versions of Internet Explorer (Desktop and Metro) and they don't talk to each other.
    Other Thoughts: I actually really enjoy Windows 8, it is fast and if you customize the start screen it is fine. I do spend most of my time on the desktop.

    Just take the time to create some desktop shortcuts for powering down and getting to all apps and you will be fine.

    I am a fairly casual user (games, office, internet and some other misc programs)

    It worked perfectly with my first PC build. See below:

    My First Build - February 2013 (just under 1K total)
    i5 3570K
    HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 256-bit PCIE 3.0
    ASRock Z77 Extreme6
    Corsair Vengeance 16GB (8x2) 1600 DDR3 RAM
    Corsair TX 750 PSU 80 Plus Bronze
    Corsair Carbide Series 500R Case Black
    Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 120GB SSD
    Samsung DVD Burner
    Windows 8 OEM


    I don't understand all the hate.
    Pros: Pretty, fast, easy to use once you learn how.
    Cons: Takes some time to get used to. Some customization needed to make it more efficient (like power down button). Jumping on the all new OS boat early means a lack of possible program support and freeware.
    Other Thoughts: I don't understand all the hate.


    Rating: 5/5Windows 8
    Pros: FAST! A nice change from the old windows style.
    Cons: A little confusing, but that's understandable because its a new OS.
    Other Thoughts: The only reason this product does not have a 5 star rating is because people don't like to learn how to navigate the new windows style OS. Get windows 8 its really cool!


    8 Rocks!
    Pros: Memory: "Sips" memory, no more buying 12 gigs to game.
    CPU: Again "Sips" cpu usage so apps run much better.
    Security: Secure multi gen code from industry owner not just leader.
    Anti-Virus: Comes with FREE MS Security Essentials so unless you are visiting some very hard core and dangerous hackers sites this is way to go. Need better? Buy ESET and use Acronis try it now and backup.....see low cpu usage....
    Cons: Zero cons at this time, wish it was free.
    Two out of 45 apps not supported at first and now only one which was Billeo bar and they stopped consumer products so that does not count. Toshiba's Call Manager for MAS server / CTX Enterprise phone system only partly worked. But that has been fixed with 0.8 version they just released so now all of my company apps work.
    Other Thoughts: I can take a Dell Precision Workstation 490, 380, T5400 or T5500 and load W8Pro 64-bit and its like a new pc again. Even after 4 months running still rolling and don't need to replace hardware effectively getting me 3-6 years life out of some of those machines, at $1200-2600 each that's nothing to sneeze at. BTW need cheap gamer pc buy it now a T5400 or T5500 with video card and W8Pro 64 you are in business w/SC2, BF3, EQ2, WOW, SS with only 4 gigs of ram.


    Honest Review
    Pros: Windows 7 with enhancements. Despite people telling you Metro is impossible to get rid of, upon install and the main screen, you just click "Desktop" and you get exactly what Windows 7 looks like and feels.
    Despite taking a couple hours to test out and get used to shortcuts and new utilities, the OS is nice. I didn't look forward to switching to this from Windows 7. Now that I have it on my system with a fresh install, it's friggin' nice. The mass of reviews saying how bad it was made me think I was in for trouble when in reality all it took was a little getting used to.
    I like moving the mouse to the corner to get a quick panel. Other than the Metro entrance, it's exactly the same.
    Unless in the next few days I suddenly find a horrible flaw in the system, I'd have to say switching to 8 half as bad as I thought, and maybe even a bonus from 7.
    Cons: I could see how people who don't use computers a lot might not get the hang of it. Then again, I assume it would be just as hard to get used to Windows 7 if you'd never used a Windows based version before.
    Using a web browser from the app screen puts it in full screen mode automatically, which if you forget not to go to desktop first gets annoying.
    Other Thoughts: The amount of people saying how horrible this OS is just makes me realize how much people can't stand even the littlest amount of change. It's a good comfortable OS.


    I don't get why this is hated so much!
    Pros: Great looking, amazing features such as account wide apps making it easy to switch from your PC to Tablet and even Phone, it's fast booting, continues to load pages fast if taking care of and easy to use even for someone with low tech knowledge.
    Cons: Not really any in my book. Maybe the price, I went for an OEM just because the price for the full I do not think is worth it.


    Future is now
    Pros: The longer I use Windows 8 the more I believe it is a leap to the next generation operating system! I waited for the Windows 8 phone, then upgraded to Win8 on home computer, now I want to upgrade to 8 at my office and get a Win8 tablet. Seamless connectivity. What you see at home is on your phone and on your tablet and on your work computer, and Xbox. It all works together. Yea, new start screen takes getting use to, but I'm now use to it. Once you get use to it on one device it's the same on all Win8 devices.
    Quick startup. Its worth having a Microsoft Account and logging right into it at start up. Then you can be connected Xbox music and games, mail, etc.
    Cons: Like anything new, there is a learning curve. I had to learn Win95, too, but it was worth it. Like with Apple and Google, it's hard to determine what apps are worth installing. Too, many to choose from and very little advice as to which one's are good.
    Other Thoughts: Just built new computer system for my 16 year old son and installed WIn8. I feared he would hate it. Here is his comment after using it: "I don't think people know what they are talking about when they say Windows 8 is hard to use. It's really easy to use."


    Great as ever
    Pros: -The OS is actually very snappy
    -The start up times are super fast, a decent bit faster then window 7
    -The metro UI is not really that bad, it is also easly avoidable with third party programs
    - metro is nice to have there if you want to casually use your pc, and as mentioned is not that big of a problem
    -storage spaces is actually very cool if you have multiple hard drives, because they wont show up as different letter drives. it will just make it one single drive in windows.
    -The start menue button missing is not all that bad, im using metro as the start menue by leaving all my programs i use normally on metro.
    -The charms bar is very nice as well, it always quick access to searching and the control panel as well as most settings.
    -The task manager is a lot easier to use now and shows off a lot more information, i personally love that it makes it easy to disable programs that will start up automatically when you start your computer.
    Cons: The only con i can think of is the packaging it comes in, this is just me being picky, but the packaging is really plain. it is just a thin packaging with another thin packaging that holds the one disc
    Other Thoughts: The OS is not as bad as most people say. It is a faster. has more features, and it just looks all around nice and not so black and white.

    Over all a nice OS that I personally enjoy


    Modern OS
    Pros: Modern OS, the first true overhaul of windows in many years. Really good combination of features you find on tablets and mobile with the same functions as a traditional desktop. The Start Button has been replaced with a more visually appealing and easier to customize interface called the Metro Browser. Task Manager has more features.
    Cons: A few bugs and a learning curve. The Start button is gone (pro for me, con for most)
    Other Thoughts: System: AMD 8 core, 8 gigs 1866 ram, nvidia 660 ti graphics card with 2 gb ddr5, dual 1080P samsung LED 23's

    First of all there is a learning curve. Not much, but once you get used to where things are and how they function this OS fuses the best features of a tablet OS and a desktop OS into one.

    The Start button actually still exists in another form, it is now the metro browser. You can customize it any way you feel easily and it is even in the lower left hand corner to activate. Instead of bringing up a menu you get a full screen customizable interface. You can add and remove Apps (and programs, as windows recognizes them as apps now). With dual displays, you can activate on either screen and even run apps on the second screen while having the standard desktop on the main screen. I was playing a game on my main screen while watching Hulu on the second (the windows 8 app version is honestly the best of the Hulu apps I think).

    I have used Windows from 3.1 to present, and used all but ME and VISTA. This feels like a different OS, especially on the surface and maybe that is where some of the negative comments come from. I really like it. Better than Windows 7 IMO.

    I do feel that the OS will streamline your personal experience, but has a little more setup to get there than Windows 7 and previous versions. Much like an Android OS you tend to make sure that things you use are in places you can easily get to them. Do I need direct access to a program I use once a year from a start menu? Or is 2 extra clicks in that situation ok? Once you realize that this streamlines the rest of your clicks for your most used programs, you will save clicks over time by quite a bit. One at least for every time you hit the start button. On the Metro Browser your most used programs can be placed (and scrolled through if there are a good number of them) and reached when you directly log into windows.


    Ahh.... I see there are people that aren't rabid out there...
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