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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    a Start button not a full screen of LARGE BUTTONS slapped in your face each time Windows starts up
    One can choose to have no tiles at all.
    Any program can be listed with hot keys instead of menu navigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    there is no longer any Start menu...How do you find... I prefer things simple and easy
    IMO, 8 offers a better experience with or without the use of touch devices.

    The metro UI is the start menu.
    All Programs has been changed to All Apps.
    System Tools has been changed to Windows System.
    Accessories has been changed to Windows Accessories.
    It's as simple as going here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    That's accurate assessment! The "lack of choice" of course sums up the mishap seen with 8 while not seen when Vista first brought in the Aero style themes and settings! There you still had the what? "Choice of" Classic or Aero! This time around MS is simply saying use it the way it is or find some "3rd party app" in order to get back to some type of normal traditional desktop role. No choices included but stuck with awkward Tablet gui? Strike One!
    But then, there were systems that legitamitely did not have the video card processing power to even handle Aero. Thats why you could run the classic if you had a crapper system. Its Apples to Oranges though in that the Start Button is simply a UI element that got deprecated by new functionality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    The MC tanked as an option in Windows anyways being too awkward at times to even get working and with a large variety of free as well as paid for players MS made the one "smart move" dumping that but also included trashing WMP along with it. Not so good for anyone who doesn't like VLC or going after some separate paid for player when WMP had always done the job. Strike Two for Media!
    Personally, I love media center(the functionality of which to my understanding is in the Pro version.. yes?). And it was always fun adding KLM Codecs for any offcolor formats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Perhaps for a browsing forum guest...
    Or... as an alternative you can simply hit the window key and start typing the name. By about the second letter, it'll be on your screen and you just hit the button. You can also click 'search' rather than start and do the same thing.
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    I believe one has to buy WMC separately.
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    That's an interesting twist to how you get that now. It's available as an upgrade option when upgrading from a previous verion or from 8 Home using the Windows 8 Pro Pack to upgrade the first edition of 8 in use say an OEM preinstall of 8 Home.The Windows 8 Media Center Pack is used to upgrade 8 Pro to Pro with MC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I believe one has to buy WMC separately.
    That's not a belief, it's accurate, but Microsoft was giving it away free for a long time, I downloaded it for 4 of my 5 licences. Unfortunately only 6% of people were using it so they ditched it, which is fair, although i use it for all my music on my HTPCs. From memory I think you can buy it for $9 or $10 or you can download XBMC for free a really top notch programme for movies and TV etc.
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    Part of the freebie side of offering MC free was due to 8 being the brand new item on the shelves as well as the introductory offer they had going! Once the intro was over they applied the separate price tag they decided they would be charging for it. One typical business practive at least was being adhered to as far as the promotional side there.
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    Bill said "Any computer user that finds Windows 8 difficult to use there's a few search engines to quickly learn it. Problem is they probably also run into thousands of websites rubbishing Windows 8, which is why you always hear the same rhetoric, it's like Vista, ME and Zune."



    There are several Free informative PDF books in the Window Store to learn information about 8 without the rubbish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    Bill said "Any computer user that finds Windows 8 difficult to use there's a few search engines to quickly learn it. Problem is they probably also run into thousands of websites rubbishing Windows 8, which is why you always hear the same rhetoric, it's like Vista, ME and Zune."



    There are several Free informative PDF books in the Window Store to learn information about 8 without the rubbish.
    Yes I think a lot of users dislike the Store way of doing things, I like it as long as it doesn't end up too much like Apples way of doing things. The thing about the Store is it provides you with a cheaper more secure way of doing business on the Internet without having to worry about doing business with unscrupulous websites.

    The Store will eventually have more Apps than either Google or Apple once the developers wake up.
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    The search engines have already been out there for looking up anything for any version! Yet that won't be the first thing a typical user anguishes over when getting the first look at any newer version. The average joe wants to sit in front of the new pc and get busy doing things without any need to be Binging or "Googlatorizing" the experience just to get things to work.

    The task set before the software company is to simplify the process for the 'newbies of the world" taking that into consider when offering a new product to the greater degree as well as not pushing for the need to load on 3rd party apps due to any drastic gui changes that alter the direction from the same platform.

    With any version there will be the "Pros" and "Cons" since a good number of people reverted back from 7 to XP or Vista showing no matter how good a new version some will always find a problem to complain about. With 8 however unlike any previous version everyone is being forced to accept the touch and swipe tablet gui developed for ARM and Surface without "options" to revert to any form of the traditional Desktop! And that's where the 3rd party goers will be cashing in on the MS goober!

    Now if you think this is simply "8 Bashing" look again. I never stated any new developments for the core level of 8 were in error. In fact that's where you have to look to see the actual "Pros" being offered. The main problem is on the "Surface" in more then one sense due to a rash decision to make every platform look the exact same at the cost of the standard type desktop gui.

    When thinking 8 out MS made the mistake of using a gui designed for a totally different platform rather then investing in developing a new touch and swipe Desktop gui for 8 that works well for the desktop platform and won't require 3rd party workarounds for most people to have made a usable OS for the layman. And it simply isn't just fast blog writers that are downplaying 8 but watch what is being observed by industry professionals who develop guis for the desktops on other OSs as they watch MS fumble the ball..
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