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PCs learn new tricks, but can tablet/notebook hybrids resc

  1. #21


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    Here I could have easily shelled out for a smarty or "I wonder" Phone but simply spend less on a cell you can text, take photos with, use as a usb flash drive even as well as just being a plain old cell phone with a few extra fancy buttons! Should I ever say that will replace the desktop pc? Give me a hangman's noose before that ever happens!

    Hand helds, tablets, laptops, desktops are all still going to be what they are! You can customize the appearance a bit to dress up the hand helds and tablets to look more like a desktop but never match them up and expect to win out with a portable there! Amd when christa mentions finding a 15" laptop awkward I can buy that right off always having to plug a mouse into one especially when the touchpad is virtually unusable at times being too touchy with the cursor flying off some place! Seen that one lately on an 8 laptop!

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  2. #22


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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    Here I could have easily shelled out for a smarty or "I wonder" Phone but simply spend less on a cell you can text, take photos with, use as a usb flash drive even as well as just being a plain old cell phone with a few extra fancy buttons! Should I ever say that will replace the desktop pc? Give me a hangman's noose before that ever happens!

    Hand helds, tablets, laptops, desktops are all still going to be what they are! You can customize the appearance a bit to dress up the hand helds and tablets to look more like a desktop but never match them up and expect to win out with a portable there! Amd when christa mentions finding a 15" laptop awkward I can buy that right off always having to plug a mouse into one especially when the touchpad is virtually unusable at times being too touchy with the cursor flying off some place! Seen that one lately on an 8 laptop!
    I wouldn't be asking for a hangman's noose, smartphones are already a lot more powerful than PCs were just a few years ago. The new Galaxy S4 has a quad core 1.9Ghz CPU, more powerful than some laptops coming out now.

    There was a study done not long ago that pointed to the younger generation as having a smartphone as their sole device. Just because the older generation can't come to grips with these things doesn't mean the younger ones can't.

    If I didn't have a few tablets I could do a lot of stuff on my phone and have done. I'm an older guy and I love new tech, the world is actually turning too slow for me, I wake up everyday hoping there's some new tech out there.

    People say you can't do real work on a 10" screen, that is just utter rubbish, it depends mainly on the resolution of the screen, and I dare say a Core i5 is ample for most work.

    Naturally if you're doing CAD and 3D Ray Tracing and making movies like Avatar power is never enough, but they're isolated instances.
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  3. #23


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Feel the love:

    Attachment 18310

    I actually have/had one lying around.
    That UI design of Windows Mobile was HORRID to use without a stylus. Horrid! That's more like Windows xp tablet PC edition, but condensed down.

    Actually, for a brief period of time, there were legitimate Pocket PCs...
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    Feel the love!
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  4. #24


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I wouldn't be asking for a hangman's noose, smartphones are already a lot more powerful than PCs were just a few years ago. The new Galaxy S4 has a quad core 1.9Ghz CPU, more powerful than some laptops coming out now.
    I don't honestly feel like these new phones are "more" powerful. They might have a higher clock speed, but when it comes to the amount of memory on the CPU, the throughput on the motherboard, the faster hard drives on PC's and laptops, I just don't find the latest smartphones to be real powerhouses. They are plenty fast enough for what they have to do, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    There was a study done not long ago that pointed to the younger generation as having a smartphone as their sole device. Just because the older generation can't come to grips with these things doesn't mean the younger ones can't.
    I do use my Samsung Galaxy S3 a whole lot more than any other cell phone. I check these forums, I read my email, I rent movies from Redbox, i look things up on imdb. But I do use a pc every day for work, and when I come home I break out a computer with a full size keyboard for making responses such as this.

    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    People say you can't do real work on a 10" screen, that is just utter rubbish, it depends mainly on the resolution of the screen, and I dare say a Core i5 is ample for most work.
    Well, after having used a Surface Pro extensively for the past week, I don't want to work on a 10" screen. At work, I use my 14" laptop screen (1600 x 900) and 23" (1920x1080) display. And I'm making a play at work to get a pair of 24" (1920x1200) monitors instead and use my laptop just in a dock. That's where I do "real" work.
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  5. #25


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    Here I could have easily shelled out for a smarty or "I wonder" Phone but simply spend less on a cell you can text, take photos with, use as a usb flash drive even as well as just being a plain old cell phone with a few extra fancy buttons! Should I ever say that will replace the desktop pc? Give me a hangman's noose before that ever happens!

    Hand helds, tablets, laptops, desktops are all still going to be what they are! You can customize the appearance a bit to dress up the hand helds and tablets to look more like a desktop but never match them up and expect to win out with a portable there! Amd when christa mentions finding a 15" laptop awkward I can buy that right off always having to plug a mouse into one especially when the touchpad is virtually unusable at times being too touchy with the cursor flying off some place! Seen that one lately on an 8 laptop!
    I wouldn't be asking for a hangman's noose, smartphones are already a lot more powerful than PCs were just a few years ago. The new Galaxy S4 has a quad core 1.9Ghz CPU, more powerful than some laptops coming out now.

    There was a study done not long ago that pointed to the younger generation as having a smartphone as their sole device. Just because the older generation can't come to grips with these things doesn't mean the younger ones can't.

    If I didn't have a few tablets I could do a lot of stuff on my phone and have done. I'm an older guy and I love new tech, the world is actually turning too slow for me, I wake up everyday hoping there's some new tech out there.

    People say you can't do real work on a 10" screen, that is just utter rubbish, it depends mainly on the resolution of the screen, and I dare say a Core i5 is ample for most work.

    Naturally if you're doing CAD and 3D Ray Tracing and making movies like Avatar power is never enough, but they're isolated instances.
    And yet that samsung galaxy won't be able to run android 5....
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  6. #26


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I wouldn't be asking for a hangman's noose, smartphones are already a lot more powerful than PCs were just a few years ago. The new Galaxy S4 has a quad core 1.9Ghz CPU, more powerful than some laptops coming out now.
    I don't honestly feel like these new phones are "more" powerful. They might have a higher clock speed, but when it comes to the amount of memory on the CPU, the throughput on the motherboard, the faster hard drives on PC's and laptops, I just don't find the latest smartphones to be real powerhouses. They are plenty fast enough for what they have to do, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    There was a study done not long ago that pointed to the younger generation as having a smartphone as their sole device. Just because the older generation can't come to grips with these things doesn't mean the younger ones can't.
    I do use my Samsung Galaxy S3 a whole lot more than any other cell phone. I check these forums, I read my email, I rent movies from Redbox, i look things up on imdb. But I do use a pc every day for work, and when I come home I break out a computer with a full size keyboard for making responses such as this.

    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    People say you can't do real work on a 10" screen, that is just utter rubbish, it depends mainly on the resolution of the screen, and I dare say a Core i5 is ample for most work.
    Well, after having used a Surface Pro extensively for the past week, I don't want to work on a 10" screen. At work, I use my 14" laptop screen (1600 x 900) and 23" (1920x1080) display. And I'm making a play at work to get a pair of 24" (1920x1200) monitors instead and use my laptop just in a dock. That's where I do "real" work.
    What's the difference between a 10 inch screen and three different sized screens? What do you get out of it?
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  7. #27


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    What's the difference between a 10 inch screen and three different sized screens? What do you get out of it?
    The ability to have a number of different windows open at the same time. Outlook, Microsoft Lync, Web Browser, terminal windows for a few ssh connections, an RDP session or two, and a couple of VM's running at any given time testing in my lab. I do a ton of R&D at work and have 4 computers at my desk. Core 2 duo (win8 box), Core 2 duo (win 7 desktop), core i7-3770k (windows 8 running VMware workstation 8) and my Core i7-3667u laptop for all of my day to day tasks.

    My laptop is connected to the external 23" screen, and of course it has it's 14" screen. My other 3 computers are all connnected to a KVM which is connected to another 23" display which runs 1920x1080).
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  8. #28


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    What's the difference between a 10 inch screen and three different sized screens? What do you get out of it?
    The ability to have a number of different windows open at the same time. Outlook, Microsoft Lync, Web Browser, terminal windows for a few ssh connections, an RDP session or two, and a couple of VM's running at any given time testing in my lab. I do a ton of R&D at work and have 4 computers at my desk. Core 2 duo (win8 box), Core 2 duo (win 7 desktop), core i7-3770k (windows 8 running VMware workstation 8) and my Core i7-3667u laptop for all of my day to day tasks.

    My laptop is connected to the external 23" screen, and of course it has it's 14" screen. My other 3 computers are all connnected to a KVM which is connected to another 23" display which runs 1920x1080).
    From that, I would imagine the windows you have open on those displays are probably aren't smallish sized windows are they? They're probably pretty big, or maybe maximized depending on the app?
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  9. #29


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    What's the difference between a 10 inch screen and three different sized screens? What do you get out of it?
    The ability to have a number of different windows open at the same time. Outlook, Microsoft Lync, Web Browser, terminal windows for a few ssh connections, an RDP session or two, and a couple of VM's running at any given time testing in my lab. I do a ton of R&D at work and have 4 computers at my desk. Core 2 duo (win8 box), Core 2 duo (win 7 desktop), core i7-3770k (windows 8 running VMware workstation 8) and my Core i7-3667u laptop for all of my day to day tasks.

    My laptop is connected to the external 23" screen, and of course it has it's 14" screen. My other 3 computers are all connnected to a KVM which is connected to another 23" display which runs 1920x1080).
    From that, I would imagine the windows you have open on those displays are probably aren't smallish sized windows are they? They're probably pretty big, or maybe maximized depending on the app?
    maximized only rarely. Depends more on which display they are on. When on 14 laptop display, it's a bigger window than when on 23 inch display.
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  10. #30


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I wouldn't be asking for a hangman's noose, smartphones are already a lot more powerful than PCs were just a few years ago. The new Galaxy S4 has a quad core 1.9Ghz CPU, more powerful than some laptops coming out now.
    I don't honestly feel like these new phones are "more" powerful. They might have a higher clock speed, but when it comes to the amount of memory on the CPU, the throughput on the motherboard, the faster hard drives on PC's and laptops, I just don't find the latest smartphones to be real powerhouses. They are plenty fast enough for what they have to do, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    There was a study done not long ago that pointed to the younger generation as having a smartphone as their sole device. Just because the older generation can't come to grips with these things doesn't mean the younger ones can't.
    I do use my Samsung Galaxy S3 a whole lot more than any other cell phone. I check these forums, I read my email, I rent movies from Redbox, i look things up on imdb. But I do use a pc every day for work, and when I come home I break out a computer with a full size keyboard for making responses such as this.

    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    People say you can't do real work on a 10" screen, that is just utter rubbish, it depends mainly on the resolution of the screen, and I dare say a Core i5 is ample for most work.
    Well, after having used a Surface Pro extensively for the past week, I don't want to work on a 10" screen. At work, I use my 14" laptop screen (1600 x 900) and 23" (1920x1080) display. And I'm making a play at work to get a pair of 24" (1920x1200) monitors instead and use my laptop just in a dock. That's where I do "real" work.
    Look we could go on about this all day, some people say 27" is the must have, some say 22" some say 15" some say 11". What it all boils down to is what suits each person. I can look at a 10" screen all day everyday, but then I have various size monitors up to a 42" TV.

    I just use what suits my purpose at the time, most of the time it's 10", when I watch a movie it's 42", when I work with video etc its 24", who cares, to each his own. And the most powerful PC I have at the moment is a 3 GHZ Core 2 Duo E8400 which is plenty for me with Windows 8.
    The next one I build will be a fire breathing Dragon which will last me another 5 years or there abouts, but in the meantime I'll be buying all kinds of tablets.
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