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PCs learn new tricks, but can tablet/notebook hybrids resc

  1. #11


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    Windows 7 on the desktop, Windows 8 Surface Pro mobile


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    That seems like a drab financial purchase to buy an 800 dollar PC, then a 230 dollar phablet and then have to carry two devices around with you. Or even start using the less expensive of the two devices more than the other, it made the 800 dollar PC effectively pointless when a phablet can do those things somewhat ok. Wouldn't it make better sense to combine the two capabilities in a nice tablet PC that costs less?

    That's just my two cents, well spent I should say...
    One thing I do tend to like is the severe amount of choice in the market.

    Nice progression:

    PC
    PC - Laptop
    PC - Laptop - Phone
    PC - Laptop - Tablet - Phone
    PC - Laptop - Laptop/Tablet - Tablet - Tablet/Phone - Phone

    So we've gone from 1 to 6 distinctly different product lines, each of which tbh has its market of people who want THAT(ambiguous) to fit their needs. 4 of those introduced in the last 6 years. And apparently Apple and Google have 7(Glasses) and 8(Watch) coming at the end of the year.

    I'm half expecting someone to figure out a way of trying to sell commerical rackspace and then your own server room to the public lol.

    I actually think we've almost gotten to the point where people will really start to care about which specific devices they have and need(now that they're all available) and you'll start to see individual lines of growth start to taper down with overall growth continuing to rise.

    It really is just a matter of what do you need to do, and what form factor you like to do it in. For me, I'll pretty much be PC, Laptop/Tablet for the foreseeable future.. i don't have a need for any of the rest. But then, I work and play games off the PC.. use the Laptop/Tablet to take work mobile, and really don't have a need for any of the rest. Your mileage may vary.

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    You did forget that there have been PDAs around for some time, which kind of overlap all of those devices.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    You did forget that there have been PDAs around for some time, which kind of overlap all of those devices.
    PDAs are great.
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  4. #14


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    Feel the love:

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    I actually have/had one lying around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Feel the love:

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    I actually have/had one lying around.
    So do you ever play HalfLife on it.
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  6. #16


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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Those tablet top AIO PCs are kind of weird, kind of cool, and shouldn't have a mechanical hard drive. I played around with the Sony Tap 20 AIO PC, pretty cool though! It's weird to basically carry around a 20 inch tablet, plop it on top of a desktop, then fold it down flat and use it on top of a table. It's crazy weird.

    Very interesting though, it could definitely ignite some demand.

    But I have to say, it REALLY annoys me when journalists or whatever refer to desktops as PCs and laptops and tablets running Windows as two different things. No, if it's running Windows, it is a PC, simple as that, regardless of form factor.
    I wouldn't mind having one of those in my bedroom to replace my media PC. Providing you could put a TV Tuner card in it or it had some way to connect it to my digital box to watch TV on it. For economic reasons I repurposed my spare desktop PC. It does the job but its a little more cluttered than I'd like. I'm a chronic pain sufferer so having a way to watch TV etc when I'm laid up in bed is a relief for me. It's not something I can ever see me wanting to use as a regular PC though.
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  7. #17


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    You did forget that there have been PDAs around for some time, which kind of overlap all of those devices.
    PDAs are great.
    Just not very popular and is fully swallowed up by the iphone.

    And frankly.. i forgot the e-reader... which is steadily getting swallowed up as a combo with the Tablet.

    PC - Laptop - Laptop/Tablet - Tablet - Tablet/E-Reader - E-Reader
    ------------------------------------------ Tablet/Phone - Phone
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  8. #18


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    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    That seems like a drab financial purchase to buy an 800 dollar PC, then a 230 dollar phablet and then have to carry two devices around with you. Or even start using the less expensive of the two devices more than the other, it made the 800 dollar PC effectively pointless when a phablet can do those things somewhat ok. Wouldn't it make better sense to combine the two capabilities in a nice tablet PC that costs less?

    That's just my two cents, well spent I should say...
    What you say makes no sense at all. Who want's to do any work on a flimsy 10" screen with substandard hardware behind it. There is no comparison to a powerful desktop with a 22" screen. The mobile i-processors are not performing like the desktop models.

    My tablets requirements are complety different. I need it for navigation, phone calls, music and videos on the road, checking mail, and some other non-vital stuff. It has to fit into my jacket pocket and must not cost much.
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    That seems like a drab financial purchase to buy an 800 dollar PC, then a 230 dollar phablet and then have to carry two devices around with you. Or even start using the less expensive of the two devices more than the other, it made the 800 dollar PC effectively pointless when a phablet can do those things somewhat ok. Wouldn't it make better sense to combine the two capabilities in a nice tablet PC that costs less?

    That's just my two cents, well spent I should say...
    What you say makes no sense at all. Who want's to do any work on a flimsy 10" screen with substandard hardware behind it. There is no comparison to a powerful desktop with a 22" screen. The mobile i-processors are not performing like the desktop models.

    My tablets requirements are complety different. I need it for navigation, phone calls, music and videos on the road, checking mail, and some other non-vital stuff. It has to fit into my jacket pocket and must not cost much.
    Other people need to actually do work in a mobile setting. They can't just goof off and call it good. And even a 15" laptop can often be cumbersome. A 2lb full Windows 8 machine they can take anywhere and use as a tablet when they need to. And it isn't an either/or. Most people that have a SP, have a PC. They'd work on the PC when at home for all the speed and monitor improvements that gives, and then on the SP while on the road or at another office(unless you like to carry your tower on your back or something, it aint portable). It all comes down to what you need and there are plenty of people for whom the SP makes perfect sense.

    Even going with a 15" laptop means that you add 2.5x-3x (5-6 lbs.) the weight of a Surface Pro, not including the overall physical size increase. And most people, unless you run high-end tools with some type of rendering or calculation engine.. won't even notice the difference in speed between a SP, laptop, or a full workstation. Office, and a lot of other workplace tools, simply do not push the chip envelope or anywhere close to it.
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  10. #20


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    Vista and Win7


    No disagreement. Different people have different needs. For my needs, my setup works best. And if I really need more than my Nexus 7 for on the road, I take one of my laptops. For me, 'on the road' usually meand travelling with the car. So weight is no problem. But on the plane or walking thru town trying to find a place, the N7 is much better for navigation.
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