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Four months in, Windows 8 needs help

  1. #61


    Winnipeg, Canada
    Posts : 19
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Centre RTM


    I've been lurking in the forums for a while, watching the debate rage on. I think it's time I weighed in. I have been using Windows 8 for a couple of months now and have installed Start8 as I just find it makes things easier for me. As far as "liking" Windows 8 over Windows 7, I'm indifferent. Windows 8 runs just fine on my computer, just as Windows 7 did. I find I rarely switch over to the Modern UI screen, so for me that is just wasted code. I have not downloaded anything from the Windows store except Skype and I probably will never purchase anything from there. A quick perusal of the store showed nothing of interest to me.

    Looking towards the future, I will probably switch to an Android based device for my computing needs as PC hardware is starting to be priced out of my range. IE $999 Canadian for the Surface Pro with 128GB of storage and it doesn't include the cover/keyboard. I think that is outrageous.

    Microsoft just doesn't offer a compelling reason to stay on board with them anymore.

    Snarks

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  2. #62


    Posts : 302
    Windows 7 on the desktop, Windows 8 Surface Pro mobile


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    What does it matter if you do think there are benefits - what about everybody else. That is the point.
    No. Your point is more entirely about you. What is Microsoft going to do for you, given you don't want to learn touch. The answer is... allow you to keep using 7 while the world moves on. They'll get you later.

    But getting old and having tech outpace you happens to everybody at some point or another.

    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Allow choice of boot to desktop and some kind of start menu - or start screen.
    The only thing that does is fragment the development process. If a third-party wants to develop a start button and support that, kudos to them. If you want to use that, kudos to you. Windows simply can't be all things to all people, or its really nothing at all and just a jumbled mess. It also can't be locked in amber so that you never have to learn anything new and the platform never evolves. Touch is here and now, whether you like it or whether you don't.

    Blame Apple, they started it :>.

    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    MS decided to thrust start screen at everyone as often as possible - they benefit of course - no coincidence it is littered with bing apps. and other MS attempts to get the users to their clouds.

    That is what it is for.
    Its for interfacing to apps and programs and does a great job of it. Especially on the Surface Pro. I was toying around with the SP earlier and installing all different sorts of app games just to give them a try. Few of them were Microsoft.Had no trouble at all navigating with touch or using apps that used touch. I can't recall ever having used Bing, and if i need to search something i usually kneejerk either Google or Yahoo just out of habit.

    I certainly agree it might be a good idea to windowize the apps if working off a large monitor workstation. Apps shine on a smaller screen or a more appropriate sized window, and having them stretch out to 24" just wastes screen space. Likewise, having them windowize on the 10" screen would just be an exercise in cheese.

    But Start Button? That can stay dead.
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  3. #63


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    LOL.

    Wrong again.

    I am one of the younger ones. I have only had my own pc for less than 5 yrs.

    It is not about me . It is about the customers.

    Do they want to sell this - or are they going to try and force it over a period through a process of attrition.

    Open your mind.
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  4. #64


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    But getting old and having tech outpace you happens to everybody at some point or another
    Wrong again. You display the view of a young person with little experience in life. I am 75 and I have learned and relearned computers and operating systems since 1958 - it was my job for 35 years. And still today I tackle a new OS at the tune of one new one per month. You give me any Windows, Linux, Android or Google OS and I can deal with it.

    It is not a matter of age, it is a matter of attitude. Tech will never outpace me as long as I can see the screen and move my fingers.
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  5. #65


    Posts : 1,353
    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    In Australia we have a Goods and Services Tax called the GST, they put 10% tax on everything you buy. Before it came out the whole of Australia was against it I thought there was going to be a Civil War. Basically everyone was saying that Australia would never survive this tax and that we were going to price ourselves out of the market.

    Guess what, nothing happened, Australia became wealthier and nobody even knows what the GST is anymore.

    Force it on to them Microsoft, a bit of pain for a lot of gain.
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  6. #66


    Posts : 1,353
    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Quote Originally Posted by SnarkyTwit View Post
    I've been lurking in the forums for a while, watching the debate rage on. I think it's time I weighed in. I have been using Windows 8 for a couple of months now and have installed Start8 as I just find it makes things easier for me. As far as "liking" Windows 8 over Windows 7, I'm indifferent. Windows 8 runs just fine on my computer, just as Windows 7 did. I find I rarely switch over to the Modern UI screen, so for me that is just wasted code. I have not downloaded anything from the Windows store except Skype and I probably will never purchase anything from there. A quick perusal of the store showed nothing of interest to me.

    Looking towards the future, I will probably switch to an Android based device for my computing needs as PC hardware is starting to be priced out of my range. IE $999 Canadian for the Surface Pro with 128GB of storage and it doesn't include the cover/keyboard. I think that is outrageous.

    Microsoft just doesn't offer a compelling reason to stay on board with them anymore.

    Snarks
    Come on now, you're comparing an Android tablet with a full blown PC, that's not a comparison that's a joke. I've got multiple tablets, while nice, I would never compare them to a full blown Windows tablet.

    You should be comparing to RT which is near half the price with Microsoft Office.

    PC hardware has never been cheaper in the history of computing, the price of Windows laptops is nearly a Joke. I was selling 486 SX 33 Compaq Notebooks for $2800 with a monochrome screen nearly 20 years ago. Now you can pick up a Notebook for less than $300 with a lot more power.

    Actually they were $3500 that was a special price..
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  7. #67


    Posts : 1,353
    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    But getting old and having tech outpace you happens to everybody at some point or another
    Wrong again. You display the view of a young person with little experience in life. I am 75 and I have learned and relearned computers and operating systems since 1958 - it was my job for 35 years. And still today I tackle a new OS at the tune of one new one per month. You give me any Windows, Linux, Android or Google OS and I can deal with it.

    It is not a matter of age, it is a matter of attitude. Tech will never outpace me as long as I can see the screen and move my fingers.
    Okay I'll give you Windows 8, deal with it.
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  8. #68


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    But getting old and having tech outpace you happens to everybody at some point or another
    Wrong again. You display the view of a young person with little experience in life. I am 75 and I have learned and relearned computers and operating systems since 1958 - it was my job for 35 years. And still today I tackle a new OS at the tune of one new one per month. You give me any Windows, Linux, Android or Google OS and I can deal with it.

    It is not a matter of age, it is a matter of attitude. Tech will never outpace me as long as I can see the screen and move my fingers.
    Okay I'll give you Windows 8, deal with it.
    I don't need your advice. You are not in my league. I would appreciate if you refrained from commenting my postings. I can live without this garbage.
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  9. #69


    Posts : 1,353
    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Wrong again. You display the view of a young person with little experience in life. I am 75 and I have learned and relearned computers and operating systems since 1958 - it was my job for 35 years. And still today I tackle a new OS at the tune of one new one per month. You give me any Windows, Linux, Android or Google OS and I can deal with it.

    It is not a matter of age, it is a matter of attitude. Tech will never outpace me as long as I can see the screen and move my fingers.
    Okay I'll give you Windows 8, deal with it.
    I don't need your advice. You are not in my league. I would appreciate if you refrained from commenting my postings. I can live without this garbage.
    Too bad you can't take a joke, but you really should refrain from telling people what they need or don't need, it's not up to you or me to tell them what they do or don't need. Just because you can't see the value in something doesn't mean others can't. The only thing I do here is tell people that Windows 8, touchscreens and Surface Tablets aren't the end of the world.

    Its Microsofts business, if they want to put touch onto everything that's their perogative, they have to make a business decision. As far as Windows 8 goes, it's Windows 7 with a 5 minute learning curve and it's a better OS.

    I thought the reference to McDonalds, the comical character and 20" keyboard would have alerted you to it being a joke, obviously not, so I apologise.
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  10. #70


    Posts : 302
    Windows 7 on the desktop, Windows 8 Surface Pro mobile


    Quote Originally Posted by SnarkyTwit View Post
    Looking towards the future, I will probably switch to an Android based device for my computing needs as PC hardware is starting to be priced out of my range. IE $999 Canadian for the Surface Pro with 128GB of storage and it doesn't include the cover/keyboard. I think that is outrageous.

    Microsoft just doesn't offer a compelling reason to stay on board with them anymore.
    It all really comes down to what you need. If an Android tablet fills your needs, you might as well go for the cheaper tbh. Thats just good economics.

    The Surface Pro tends to be aimed at laptop users that want all the abilities of a tablet so they can take their work on the road. So its basically two devices in one(hence the higher price). But if you don't need the ability to run all your previous programs, and there is an app for everything you need, then why go for the SP?
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