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  1. #41


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    Windows 7 on the desktop, Windows 8 Surface Pro mobile


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Everybody knows the RT isn't selling and why(wrong form factor).

    Are you sure that is why.
    Yup.. it'll become more apparent as the year goes on. The 10" iPad is allready getting eaten alive from just Apple's own iPad Mini. 7" will be the de facto standard for pure tablets. You won't be able to buy one at 10" in a year or two.

    And the cheap versions of the Surface Pro with the name SAMSUNG

    Did you epect them to try and put one out at $2000, or did you expect them to go head on with MS?
    If they are going to bring one out a lower price point - no surprise it isn't the same quality - there is also the little matter of the license fees hampering what they can spend on it.
    *shrug*.. they just look cheap to me. Even the ones that compete at the same price point. Like a typical Samsung knockoff where they just 'get it to work'(or in the case of Apple just simply copying the design of the iPhone wholesale). On this part, Microsoft was probably very astute in actually designing one of their own. OEM's are not known for their design, only their speed of delivery, and if Apple has shown anything... the prospects of mobile products are enhanced greatly by good design.

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  2. #42


    Quote Originally Posted by chrisa View Post

    Yup.. it'll become more apparent as the year goes on. The 10" iPad is allready getting eaten alive from just Apple's own iPad Mini. 7" will be the de facto standard for pure tablets. You won't be able to buy one at 10" in a year or two.
    That will apply to the Surface PRO also. You may not see one of those in a year or two.
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  3. #43


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    I wouldn't disagree 7 in appears to be getting more popular.

    I don't think that is why it failed. It is far too expensive. Apple can get premium prices - that is what they are good at.

    Is there anything with 8 on it out there at $200-300 ?


    The 10" iPad is allready getting eaten alive from just Apple's own iPad Mini
    It's not just the size - there is quite a difference in price between those two.

    Even with the 7 in, Apple can get a premium.
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  4. #44


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I wouldn't disagree 7 in appears to be getting more popular.

    I don't think that is why it failed. It is far too expensive. Apple can get premium prices - that is what they are good at.

    Is there anything with 8 on it out there at $200-300 ?
    The only thing I can find is a Windows 8 phone but that is with a 2 year contract.
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  5. #45


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    Exactly.

    Long while back I did a Poll here.

    Win 8 adorers were convinced the world would fall over itself to pay 500 bucks for one of those things.

    I pointed out then - $200-300 is going to be hot - at that time it didn't look like MS would be there.

    So it turned out..
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  6. #46


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    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    Excuse me there guys, but is Ray8 gone. Haven't seen his patented dislike for anything windows 8 in the past couple of days. I really did like reading his. . .whatever you might call it. . .fun to read. . .
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  7. #47


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    @ Lee,

    Yeah, me too.

    I might be mistaken , but I thought I saw he was reading one of these threads earlier.
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  8. #48


    Posts : 1,353
    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Excuse me there guys, but is Ray8 gone. Haven't seen his patented dislike for anything windows 8 in the past couple of days. I really did like reading his. . .whatever you might call it. . .fun to read. . .
    Who's Ray8, never heard of him.
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  9. #49


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    Windows 7 on the desktop, Windows 8 Surface Pro mobile


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisa View Post

    Yup.. it'll become more apparent as the year goes on. The 10" iPad is allready getting eaten alive from just Apple's own iPad Mini. 7" will be the de facto standard for pure tablets. You won't be able to buy one at 10" in a year or two.
    That will apply to the Surface PRO also. You may not see one of those in a year or two.
    We'll see. I think you're wrong primarily because it hits a brand new market that they have no real competition in. The iPad and iPad Mini are entirely different device lines and starting to coalesce around the 7" form factor and price, and the design of the Pro is lightyears beyond anything out of the OEM's. Lets put it this way, had I not explicitly looked up Samsung and Lenovo Tablet PC's for comparisons sake.. there is a good chance i wouldn't even know they exist. Most people i've talked to about the Pro know what it is at least by 'oh.. thats the thing in the commercials right?'

    But make no mistake, the market won't support two different form factors of the same iPad, and with mobile smaller and cheaper(while providing the same functionality) tends to always be better.
    Last edited by chrisa; 09 Mar 2013 at 19:34.
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  10. #50


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post

    This was typed on the Surface Pro.
    th
    yes it was. Not only that, I sm using the. Keyboard with all ten fingers. I'm not correctingna mistakes, I've closed the browser three times by hitting the windows key , brought up the weather app, the finance app accidentally . its probably tkane me about two minutes thus far t omake this fespons. Pretty swedte
    I'm not real good on English, but I think I know the basics.

    This is my interpretation.

    You were trying to deride the Surface Pro by pointing out that it was next to useless when typing, hence the rubbish above.

    Unfortunately it backfired on you by admitting that you can type 72wpm at 94% accuracy.

    Please tell me where I've gone wrong.

    Anyway this has nothing to do with the Surface Pro, there are women that can type twice as fast as you with their thumbs on a smartphone.
    My interpretation is:

    pparks is trying to show you that he and on-screen keyboard isn't matching with his typing style.
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