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  1. #71


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    You could be right. It seems to work like that with start menu. Winkey, letter, enter. It also seems to put last selection at the top if you try it again.

    edit:

    Only works sometimes, now I have tried it.

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  2. #72


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    Search & Help


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Windows 7, XP and Linux Mint (or Apple) are not perfect Operating Systems either.
    I don't recall implying that they were.

    Quote Originally Posted by karma mechanic View Post
    It doesn't appear logical.

    I just tried a search for Macrium Reflect.
    No hits.

    Just Reflect gives the answer you'd expect.

    Unfortunately the desktop icon says 'Macrium Reflect' and that's the name I associate with the program.
    This highlights the "problem" with relying on Search.

    You have to hope that whoever designed the search algorithm thinks the same way you do.
    Users should have the option of being able to add their own keywords to the database.

    A similar situation occurs when using Help files.
    Users should have the option of being able to add their own keywords and comments to the database.
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  3. #73


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    This highlights the "problem" with relying on Search.
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    You have to hope that whoever designed the search algorithm thinks the same way you do.
    There is a standard for code algorithms. It has nothing to do with personalities.
    When using a computer, if one cannot rely on a search, then the computer would be a rather flawed device.
    However, it matters that the user comply with the GIGO (Garbage In Garbage Out) rules.
    If a user incorrectly enters alphanumeric characters that do not accurately identify a pointer to content, then it is the users fault.

    The start menu is no more accurate in finding content than what is available in Windows 8.
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  4. #74


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    Personality?


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    There is a standard for code algorithms. It has nothing to do with personalities.
    Who said anything about personality?
    What's being a "Great Guy/Gal" got to do with anything?

    Simple example:
    • You call a defrag program, "HDD Maintenance" and I call it "defrag"
    • In my search program, I include "defrag" as a keyword, but I don't include "HDD Maintenance" as a keyword.
    • You can search for "HDD Maintenance" until you are "blue in the face" and you'll never find the defrag program.

    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    When using a computer, if one cannot rely on a search, then the computer would be a rather flawed device.
    Just check out how many threads there are on SevenForums related to Search:
    • Not working
    • Returning the wrong results

    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    However, it matters that the user comply with the GIGO (Garbage In Garbage Out) rules.
    If a user incorrectly enters alphanumeric characters that do not accurately identify a pointer to content, then it is the users fault.
    Q - Who set GIGO?
    A - The people that wrote the software.

    Q - Who determines the pointer parameters?
    A - The people that wrote the software.

    You didn't even read karma mechanic's post, or you didn't understand what he wrote.

    Apparently it is inconceivable to you that anyone would think that "Macrium Reflect Free Edition" would be called:
    • "Macrium Reflect Free Edition"
    • "Macrium Reflect Free"
    • "Macrium Reflect"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    The start menu is no more accurate in finding content than what is available in Windows 8.
    I didn't say that other operating systems have better (or worse) search than W8.
    Last edited by lehnerus2000; 09 Mar 2013 at 23:50. Reason: Title Added
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  5. #75


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    You have to hope that whoever designed the search algorithm thinks the same way you do.
    It is a mathematical scheme that is based on ascii values not human views.

    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Just check out how many threads there are on SevenForums related to Search
    First, I have no interest in Windows 7 and or the forum.
    Second, errors from search are common and mostly attributal to human error.

    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Who set GIGO?
    Actually, gigo is a combination of hardware and software architectual imperatives that make a computer a useful tool. Without it, the processor would be error prone.

    In any event, using the Windows 8 apps area is an adequate source of content for my perusal. Win + Q
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  6. #76


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    Conveniently ...


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Second, errors from search are common and mostly attributal to human error.
    Conveniently, human error only applies to end users and not the people involved in creating the search tool.

    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Actually, gigo is a combination of hardware and software architectual imperatives that make a computer a useful tool. Without it, the processor would be error prone.
    What it actually means is only valid inputs, produce valid outputs.

    The designer of the device/system (historically a human) determines the value of a valid input and the corresponding valid output.
    This is documented, so that other people can use the device/system for some function.

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    This is probably appropriate:

    Garbage in, gospel out
    is a more recent expansion of the acronym. It is a sardonic comment on the tendency to put excessive trust in "computerized" data, and on the propensity for individuals to blindly accept what the computer says.
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