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  1. #61


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    My point is you should not need a keyboard to fine a program it should be organized to be easy to find without a search.
    Hi there
    Maybe my bad English but doesn't FIND mean basically a SEARCH even if it's a simple single LOOK rather than involve say a number of scrolls (either horizontally or vertically) or enter an argument such as zzz* into a box.

    Please also tell me say you have 781 programs installed which contain sub programs and sub programs so the total number of possibilities you could have might be over 3,000. How would you arrange that on a screen in ANY type of system without some sort of "Manual Search".

    In any case I LIKE the use of customized toolbars on W8 -- why not set up - Programs, most used applications etc -- very quick and easy to get to what you want without having to scroll or have lots of Icons on a desktop or on the quick launch bar. I have a thread on this Forum about creating a Menu like facility from W8 WITHOUT using any third party tools.

    Classical Menu WITHOUT using 3rd party apps or system mods

    Cheers
    jimbo

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  2. #62


    Posts : 302
    Windows 7 on the desktop, Windows 8 Surface Pro mobile


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    You have a Surface Pro and you left the keyboard at home now what. We are suppose to have a GUI not command line.
    A) the keyboard acts as a cover. Why would you take one without the other?

    and

    B) it has a touchscreen on-screen keyboard when going full tablet.
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  3. #63


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    I find it easier to press a key and execute a listed program than navigate a nested menu.

    Attachment 17995
    Why do these programs appear when you press "N":
    • Obly?
    • Animation Shop 2?
    • Paint Shop Pro 6?


    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    Seems noone remembers XP being the equivalent of 8 today. Until people started using 3rd party apps to customize it like Tweak UI etc.
    Nope.
    It wasn't necessary.

    I did try "Tweak UI" (many years ago) but apart from the menu speed settings, it didn't offer anything that I needed.
    It "didn't get a guernsey" in my last two XP installs.
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  4. #64


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post

    Why do these programs appear when you press "N":
    • Obly?
    • Animation Shop 2?
    • Paint Shop Pro 6?
    Some programs have not been installed (not in the registry) but exist in a folder (called net) created in the program data start menu system folder. The search or listing feature sometimes shows adjacent or related programs (by location or spelling). Obly is located next to a folder called net in the program data start menu system folder. Obly is not an installed application.

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    I do not know what kind of coding algorithm 8 uses for listing or searches.
    Auto arranging desktop icons are not exactly alphabetical by the file name first letter.
    The apps area is alphabetical similar to a start menu.
    Windows 7, XP and Linux Mint (or Apple) are not perfect Operating Systems either.
    Last edited by mdmd; 09 Mar 2013 at 09:42.
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  5. #65


    It doesn't appear logical.

    I just tried a search for Macrium Reflect.
    No hits.

    Just Reflect gives the answer you'd expect.

    Unfortunately the desktop icon says 'Macrium Reflect' and that's the name I associate with the program.
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  6. #66


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    All you need do is type r.
    The name of the program is reflect.

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    If you are looking for a program, you don't normally type the makers name like Stardock or Microsoft.
    (or Macrium)
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  7. #67


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    All you need do is type r.
    The name of the program is reflect.

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    Except on the desktop it is clearly shown as Macrium Reflect, so that's what I'd look for.

    I know that the 'r' works, but only because I tried that after the initial failure. Some posts above were suggesting that there were more hits than expected sometimes, and I was illustrating a case where there are fewer hits than expected
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  8. #68


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    Server 2012 / 8.0


    my desktop, oh well

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  9. #69


    I just renamed the desktop shortcut, now perhaps I'll get used to calling it Reflect

    Perhaps the shortcut dates back a long way, and the more recent updates have adopted different naming without changing the old shortcut.

    BTW, Adobe Photoshop, Foxit Reader, Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, Paragon Hard Disk Manager all work with the full name.
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  10. #70


    Another thing I've discovered about starting a query in Start Screen when one starts to type is that the program one opens last in the previous query (using the same letter(s) appears first. e.g. After my last fresh install I queried "n" to look for Notepad. It appeared somewhere like 3rd on the list. I arrowed down pushed Enter to open. Subsequently thereafter I simply type "n" and Notepad appears first on the list just like "most recently opened". Then all I need to do is push Enter.

    I can open Notepad in less than a blink of an eye with 3 keys. WinKey -> n key -> Enter. Walla!

    Edit: Never mind. I was wrong. I just experimented with queries and what I stated isn't true, but I could swear that's the way it was for Notepad after my install . So, I assumed.
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