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Five reasons why Windows 8 has failed

  1. #31


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    LOL.

    Apple TV is interesting. I have heard Jobsy was on it before he shuffled of this mortal coil. He was pretty excited about, apparently.

    It might be rather more wide ranging than at first meets the eye.
    Highly doubt as they already have a TV box and that isn't really popular as it is...
    Why buy a TV box when new TV's are already being equipped with all the same programs that these boxes like Apple TV come with. Also an old PC/laptop can be use to stream Netflix, VuDu, etc., without the expense of these little TV boxes.

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  2. #32


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    LOL.

    Apple TV is interesting. I have heard Jobsy was on it before he shuffled of this mortal coil. He was pretty excited about, apparently.

    It might be rather more wide ranging than at first meets the eye.
    Highly doubt as they already have a TV box and that isn't really popular as it is...
    Why buy a TV box when new TV's are already being equipped with all the same programs that these boxes like Apple TV come with. Also an old PC/laptop can be use to stream Netflix, VuDu, etc., without the expensive of these little TV boxes.
    Exactly.
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  3. #33


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmartEyeball View Post
    Sheesh, the numbers don't lie people. 8 is a financial flop. Was always going to be and there's no surprise that it is. The majority have spoken.



    However, I do enjoy using this flop



    But enough with the Metro argument already. Don't like it? Don't use it. It's that simple.
    I fully agree.

    But sometimes you just have to repeat the same text on many threads that keep repeating the subjects.

    For the rest, all good.
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  4. #34


    Portland, Oregon, USA
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    Windows 8.1 Pro x64, Windows Server 2012 R2 x64


    I think MS made the right choice by adopting Metro/Modern as the basis of their OS of the future. In the short term people will complain that it is only made for phones/tablets and will say that it is stupid to use it on a PC. But in the long-term we will see the mass-adoption of touchscreen PCs, and that is the future of PCs. So in the long-term it will succeed even though it's not doing well right now.
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  5. #35


    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma View Post
    I think MS made the right choice by adopting Metro/Modern as the basis of their OS of the future. In the short term people will complain that it is only made for phones/tablets and will say that it is stupid to use it on a PC. But in the long-term we will see the mass-adoption of touchscreen PCs, and that is the future of PCs. So in the long-term it will succeed even though it's not doing well right now.
    Great post, Enigma! I agree. Change is here. Market demand for touch is increasing. MS did not start this market demand. Mainly phone then tablet users did and is infiltrating into desktop PCs. I think MS did a fine job in their first attempt at this with 8. It works well with mouse and keyboard as it does with finger.

    So it's not selling as much as past OSs histories, but it's selling. I didn't think it would be quick out of the gate. MS is in it for the long haul. I predict sales figures will be rising by late Spring to mid Summer, then get exponentially greater.
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  6. #36


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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma View Post
    I think MS made the right choice by adopting Metro/Modern as the basis of their OS of the future. In the short term people will complain that it is only made for phones/tablets and will say that it is stupid to use it on a PC. But in the long-term we will see the mass-adoption of touchscreen PCs, and that is the future of PCs. So in the long-term it will succeed even though it's not doing well right now.
    Or maybe, maybe, it ain't gonna happen because touch on a PC just doesn't make any sense at all.
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  7. #37


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    Windows 7 on the desktop, Windows 8 Surface Pro mobile


    Quote Originally Posted by mcnulty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma View Post
    I think MS made the right choice by adopting Metro/Modern as the basis of their OS of the future. In the short term people will complain that it is only made for phones/tablets and will say that it is stupid to use it on a PC. But in the long-term we will see the mass-adoption of touchscreen PCs, and that is the future of PCs. So in the long-term it will succeed even though it's not doing well right now.
    Or maybe, maybe, it ain't gonna happen because touch on a traditional PC just doesn't make any sense at all.
    It'll happen. But not until people get a lot more comfortable interacting with Windows that way, probably through convertibles.

    Phantom Swipe Syndrome is a real thing :P, just ask Apple users. It literally makes no sense to not allow and integrate the ability to touch and use a pen to manipulate a program or computer from *any* computer you own.

    The tipping point is when traditional PC programs that work in concert with Apps start primarily designing their interfaces around the ability to fully take advantage of touch screen. An interface designed around one is significantly different from one designed around the other. At that point, using a mouse will start to become foreign and the less preferred method of interaction.
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  8. #38


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    Quote Originally Posted by SmartEyeball View Post
    But enough with the Metro argument already. Don't like it? Don't use it. It's that simple.
    It may be that simple now, when most of the Apps in Windows Store are of a fairly simple nature, and you can easily get away without using them.

    However suppose Office 2014 (or whatever the next one is) was Metro-only? If Microsoft aren't dissuaded from thinking that Metro is the future, presumably it's a strong possibility.

    Sooner or later the corporate IT folk would buy it, and the full-screen nature of Metro would mean I'd get a lot less productive in my job (and would slow me down at home come to that). The advantages of Windows 8 (and yes, there definitely are some) would be totally outweighed by the cumbersome world of being forced to use everything full-screen.
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  9. #39


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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartEyeball View Post
    But enough with the Metro argument already. Don't like it? Don't use it. It's that simple.
    It may be that simple now, when most of the Apps in Windows Store are of a fairly simple nature, and you can easily get away without using them.

    However suppose Office 2014 (or whatever the next one is) was Metro-only? If Microsoft aren't dissuaded from thinking that Metro is the future, presumably it's a strong possibility.

    Sooner or later the corporate IT folk would buy it, and the full-screen nature of Metro would mean I'd get a lot less productive in my job (and would slow me down at home come to that). The advantages of Windows 8 (and yes, there definitely are some) would be totally outweighed by the cumbersome world of being forced to use everything full-screen.
    Most likely than anything, Microsoft will be releasing the Office apps individually in the metro environment. Maybe years later it will be a whole suite fully optimized for touch with full feature sets.

    This crap takes time. Hold onto your trousers.
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  10. #40


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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mcnulty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma View Post
    I think MS made the right choice by adopting Metro/Modern as the basis of their OS of the future. In the short term people will complain that it is only made for phones/tablets and will say that it is stupid to use it on a PC. But in the long-term we will see the mass-adoption of touchscreen PCs, and that is the future of PCs. So in the long-term it will succeed even though it's not doing well right now.
    Or maybe, maybe, it ain't gonna happen because touch on a traditional PC just doesn't make any sense at all.
    It'll happen. But not until people get a lot more comfortable interacting with Windows that way, probably through convertibles.

    Phantom Swipe Syndrome is a real thing :P, just ask Apple users. It literally makes no sense to not allow and integrate the ability to touch and use a pen to manipulate a program or computer from *any* computer you own.

    The tipping point is when traditional PC programs that work in concert with Apps start primarily designing their interfaces around the ability to fully take advantage of touch screen. An interface designed around one is significantly different from one designed around the other. At that point, using a mouse will start to become foreign and the less preferred method of interaction.
    It's true that the two styles of interaction are completely different. That's why the hybrid nature of Windows 8 makes no sense. Of course, neither does touch on a desktop system.
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