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  1. #101


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Very nice comparison, Hippsie!

    Looks better, BUT the second one needs more maintenance even from the house perspective. Look where it's placed: I love nature, but you need to cut down the bushes and trees pretty often to stop the jungle from taking over in the house.
    Thanks, Hopachi. Actually Falling Water is practically maintenance free. made of natural stone, concrete, and steel. You may have to do some tree trimming and flower bed care, but there isn't a lawn.

    That house was completed in 1938. It looks like it was built yesterday to me.
    1938, we can't even get a builder in Australia to make a house last 5 years. I went to a village in Holland where all the houses were 200 years old as were the roads, I thought it was a new estate. The only difference between the old bricks and new bricks was that they were longer and the roads were better than any modern road.
    Yes it's an architectural marvel.
    1938 was when they built good stuff. Stone is very long lasting (thousands of years), reinforced concrete (became standard after 1960's) lasts less (hundreds of years) because the corroding steel will expand and crack open the concrete.

    Stone or brick is the way to go, avoid wood.


    The initial comparison with Win8 was nice to see: you make it look very innovative and solid. Let's hope the 'corroded steel' doesn't happen too fast here: for instance Win8 was very fast even after many installations here. But the Start Screen take longer to show up and doesn't let me click the Desktop only after a delay (still investigating this one).

    Cheers
    Hopachi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    ...reinforced concrete (became standard after 1960's) lasts less (hundreds of years) because the corroding steel will expand and crack open the concrete.

    Stone or brick is the way to go, avoid wood.
    I don't think that's quite correct:

    The Secrets of Ancient Rome

    Concrete Structures Could Last 16,000 Years

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  3. #103


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    ...reinforced concrete (became standard after 1960's) lasts less (hundreds of years) because the corroding steel will expand and crack open the concrete.

    Stone or brick is the way to go, avoid wood.
    I don't think that's quite correct:
    It's correct, because Rome didn't use reinforced concrete.

    It's stronger, but doesn't have the longevity.


    And to keep the thread on topic, Windows 8 is alright in my books, and not necessarily a failure.
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  4. #104


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    Quote Originally Posted by electrotune1200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    ...reinforced concrete (became standard after 1960's) lasts less (hundreds of years) because the corroding steel will expand and crack open the concrete.

    Stone or brick is the way to go, avoid wood.
    I don't think that's quite correct:
    It's correct, because Rome didn't use reinforced concrete.

    It's stronger, but doesn't have the longevity.


    And to keep the thread on topic, Windows 8 is alright in my books, and not necessarily a failure.

    No steel, no corrosion.

    But we should remain on topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by electrotune1200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    ...reinforced concrete (became standard after 1960's) lasts less (hundreds of years) because the corroding steel will expand and crack open the concrete.

    Stone or brick is the way to go, avoid wood.
    I don't think that's quite correct:
    It's correct, because Rome didn't use reinforced concrete.

    It's stronger, but doesn't have the longevity.


    And to keep the thread on topic, Windows 8 is alright in my books, and not necessarily a failure.
    Hi there.

    I think W8 is actually going in the right direction if you look at FUTURE hardware developments rather than dying Dinosaur technology.

    Samsung is for the moment going with Android -- no surprise there -- and I do think Ms made a mistake in releasing the RT BEFORE the surface pro. Normally you release your flagship product - then your cheaper and less featured models.

    But BTW :

    Not sure Brick would be a good idea in California -- especially for small buildings like individual houses. The Earth even when no earthquakes are actually felt is always moving and brick would fall apart quite quickly. Wood can easily be replaced and is reasonably pliable so small shifting earth movements won't damage the house too quickly. Wood has longevity too if you pick the right wood and treat it properly. It's also much more environmentally friendly than brick as well.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    MS is certainly headed in the correct direction. Times have changed and will change again.

    I see some interest in architecture here. Shall I start a thread in the lounge on this topic?
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  8. #108


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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    MS is certainly headed in the correct direction. Times have changed and will change again.

    I see some interest in architecture here. Shall I start a thread in the lounge on this topic?
    What you don't seem to be able to realize is that there will always be a need for the desktop platform to perform various tasks that cannot be performed on any tablet or IPad! What MS actually did was "short change" the desktop users in favor of their new Surface Tablets and Windows RT sales. "Let's make the desktop releases look the same!" was someone's lame idea for marketing a new version without development involved with the desktop platform side of things. Instead they simply slapped the RT gui on just like that.

    There is no "this is the way of the future!" crapola but actual reality of a marketing decision to compete with Googlelitis and the Fruit company at the same time. The simple fact is that the desktop user got taken for a joy ride! The Aero as well as media features were stripped out of an updated 7 core and labeled 8 after slapping a tablet gui on rather then work on any new version of the desktop itself. "CUTTING CORNERS!" is not any form of Progressive Development for the desktop platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    MS is certainly headed in the correct direction. Times have changed and will change again.

    I see some interest in architecture here. Shall I start a thread in the lounge on this topic?
    What you don't seem to be able to realize is that there will always be a need for the desktop platform to perform various tasks that cannot be performed on any tablet or IPad! What MS actually did was "short change" the desktop users in favor of their new Surface Tablets and Windows RT sales. "Let's make the desktop releases look the same!" was someone's lame idea for marketing a new version without development involved with the desktop platform side of things. Instead they simply slapped the RT gui on just like that.

    There is no "this is the way of the future!" crapola but actual reality of a marketing decision to compete with Googlelitis and the Fruit company at the same time. The simple fact is that the desktop user got taken for a joy ride! The Aero as well as media features were stripped out of an updated 7 core and labeled 8 after slapping a tablet gui on rather then work on any new version of the desktop itself. "CUTTING CORNERS!" is not any form of Progressive Development for the desktop platform.
    With that said... a) they needed to go convertible and in a bad way(RT, not so much, or at least it should have been in a smaller Mini type form factor), the numbers off convertibles will prove that out and b) Microsoft isn't Apple, they aren't going to abandon the desktop PC like a child on the side of the road like Apple is doing with the Mac.

    What i'd really like to see is Samsung get together with Microsoft and Intel and simply put out the Teraflop PC for Power Users with like 10 TB of hard drive space that can be clouded for your devices running Windows Server 2012 and watch the Macheads go screaming into the night. Someone is going to do it, you could probably sell them to colleges pretty easy for academia and there is a small segment of PC users that would buy it simply for hobby and bragging rights. The same segment that drops $2k on a video card just so they can run the latest version of Crysis at max settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisa View Post

    What i'd really like to see is Samsung get together with Microsoft and Intel and simply put out the Teraflop PC for Power Users with like 10 TB of hard drive space that can be clouded for your devices running Windows Server 2012 and watch the Macheads go screaming into the night. Someone is going to do it, you could probably sell them to colleges pretty easy for academia and there is a small segment of PC users that would buy it simply for hobby and bragging rights. The same segment that drops $2k on a video card just so they can run the latest version of Crysis at max settings.
    Don't hold your breath on that one.

    Samsung to halt Windows RT tablet sales in Germany - Computerworld
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