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  1. #91


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    Bill's view of Australian Houses:

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    But hey, they all have to be re-built in five years as they all collapse.

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  2. #92


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    That one at the top looks like my place, just a bit better than mine. You know its funny when you talk to people online you get a mental picture in your head, I never knew you were a woman Ray.

    Yes folks those houses at the bottom that's your typical suburban home. We're a rich country.
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  3. #93


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
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    1938, we can't even get a builder in Australia to make a house last 5 years. I went to a village in Holland where all the houses were 200 years old as were the roads, I thought it was a new estate. The only difference between the old bricks and new bricks was that they were longer and the roads were better than any modern road.
    Well, that just goes to prove the lengths to which Bill is prepared to exaggerate, or even lie. It doesn't take much to prove that it's just more BS.
    I'll forgive you again, as you've obviously never travelled overseas. The houses looked like they'd been built yesterday and the paved roads were like they'd been layed by some machine.

    Go and have a look at King Ludwicks Castle, still the same as the day it was built. Go to St Petersburg in Russia, 300 year old buildings bigger and better than anything in Australia today and all built on a swamp.

    Actually there's a lot of cities in France where the buildings are still in pristine condition and probably around 200 years old or older.

    I'm going overseas again shortly, I'll send you some postcards from the Eiffel Tower and Barcelona.
    Yeah, they can't build proper homes and roads in Australia. Just compare it with Germany and see the difference.

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  4. #94


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    That one at the top looks like my place, just a bit better than mine. You know its funny when you talk to people online you get a mental picture in your head, I never knew you were a woman Ray.

    Yes folks those houses at the bottom that's your typical suburban home. We're a rich country.
    Once again, you debase yourself.
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  5. #95


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    The science of psychology has proven uncountable times that humans are nothing more than animals at their very core, and like all other animals we are resistant to change. BillWindows's comparison to parrots is very much appropriate. Windows 8 is different enough than its' predecessors that people will resist it at first and stick with what they've known for so long, and try to find things that are "wrong" with it (regardless of whether it is true or false). Many longtime XP users did the same after Vista and 7 were released.
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  6. #96


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    So Windows users are parrots. Bird brains?
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  7. #97


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    So Windows users are parrots. Bird brains?
    What MS has failed to do is get across to us parrots (LOL) what the real world benefits are. Sure if you just want to do a few e-mails, facebook, show off some pics to your friends then I'm sure Metro is a good way to go. In reality that's probably where most folks are - all they require is a tablet or slate or whatever it's called. They never needed a desktop/laptop in the first place but that's all that was available.

    For those that do require a desktop/laptop then the 'problems' start. What exactly are those benefits. Okay so it boots up quicker but in my case that's no big deal if it's a few seconds quicker at boot time. There seems to be a misunderstanding between features and benefits and MS has failed in this area.

    Like them or not but the fruit company with Jobs were great at marketing and still are although the shine seems to be coming off since he departed this world. MS are simply not in the same league and it's interesting how quickly they did a u-turn over Office 2013 re licensing - so much for their marketing dept who thought they knew best!!!

    Using Win7 or 8 is a personal preference. We will use whatever suits our personal requirements and it really is that simple. When (or if) MS gives me the benefits to change then I'll look again but until then.....
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  8. #98


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    So Windows users are parrots. Bird brains?
    For once I don't know what to say.
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  9. #99


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    If you owe multiple Windows-8-Gadgets like a Windows-8-Desktop-PC + a Surface-Pro-Tablet + a Nokia Lumia 920, then the whole Windows-8 Experience makes sense, as you have to "learn" the whole thing only once.

    I really don't understand the hate about Windows-8, but if we look back, then we will remember that this kind of behaviour appears always after a new Windows-Version got released.

    There is nothing really wrong with Windows-8, but as mentioned before, plenty people don't like change and that's the problem and not Windows-8.

    I run Windows-8 on three different Desktop-PC's and had no drama's, major bug's or BSOD's so far, beside that the "Upgrade and keep everything"-Path doesn't work very well, but that never worked perfect before and isn't a big deal, as I prefer to have a clean install.

    You can use the Metro-UI very well with the mouse and keyboard, but I prefer to do my main things via the desktop.

    To spend 5 bucks for Start8 is not a big deal either. How many uninformed user's are spending far more money on crap tools like Norton etc., but cry now that if they are not happy with the free Start-Menu-Button-Tools, that they have to spend 5 bucks ?

    That's really hilarious ...

    I started back in my old days with a VC-20 and had therefore to adjust many many times to changes and did it hurt me in some way ? No, it helped me to build knowledge and there is nothing wrong with that.

    I was running for quite a while my own PC-Repair- / Custom-Build-Business and therefore I had contact to all kind of different user's / customers and I can tell you that most of them would even struggle to reset their email-account-password and that are the customers which don't like change and therefore cry if they get pressured to adjust to a new OS, but I doubt that you would find a lot of such user's in places like this or other tech forums.

    Windows-8 has some improvements under the hood and does plenty things better or faster, but if you already start crying about change when you are just scratching on the surface, then you will never find out.

    But that's only my 2 cents and it's ok if you have a different point of view, as I don't want to offend someone here.

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  10. #100


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    Quote Originally Posted by mart4494 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    So Windows users are parrots. Bird brains?
    What MS has failed to do is get across to us parrots (LOL) what the real world benefits are. Sure if you just want to do a few e-mails, facebook, show off some pics to your friends then I'm sure Metro is a good way to go. In reality that's probably where most folks are - all they require is a tablet or slate or whatever it's called. They never needed a desktop/laptop in the first place but that's all that was available.

    For those that do require a desktop/laptop then the 'problems' start. What exactly are those benefits. Okay so it boots up quicker but in my case that's no big deal if it's a few seconds quicker at boot time. There seems to be a misunderstanding between features and benefits and MS has failed in this area.

    Like them or not but the fruit company with Jobs were great at marketing and still are although the shine seems to be coming off since he departed this world. MS are simply not in the same league and it's interesting how quickly they did a u-turn over Office 2013 re licensing - so much for their marketing dept who thought they knew best!!!

    Using Win7 or 8 is a personal preference. We will use whatever suits our personal requirements and it really is that simple. When (or if) MS gives me the benefits to change then I'll look again but until then.....
    I think that is an excellent sumary of just where MS is failing with 8 besides turning the desktop platform upside down making a quick slap of a tablet on desktop gui blonder for the usual customer who is expecting a new "desktop" to look at and instead thinks someone made a mistake and preinstalled the wrong OS on a new desktop or laptop!

    If the new gui on 8 had been designed for the desktop and not simply something you can still point and click on you would have a far better suited touch and swipe gui available on the desktop platform as well as a new full desktop version seen. 7 initially brought in a bit more support for touchscreen technology then many realize.

    What 7 did that worked is retain the desktop gui in the process while MS seems to have abandoned the desktop gui as well as stripping the OS down quite a bit further explaining the lowest prices seen in Windows since the OS was first revealed. Even 9x saw $180 prices for the full and right up next to $100 for the upgrades at times back in the 90s!

    As for individual preferences you will find many simply "skipped over" XP entirely to run Vista when finally getting around to upgrading out of 2000/2000 Pro or possibly even ME while some actually still run that or the Legacy versions in some form. The XP Mode was something new by MS where MS was "thinking ahead" about how to get XP users like businesses to upgrade into a better OS and then trash the entire concept of a desktop OS with the next version to come?

    "We think it will be nice to have the Surface Tablet gui on all Win 8 editions to remind people we are now offering a new tablet product line!" daaaa.... hindsight about how the actual desktop users will be looking at things apparently.
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