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Windows 8 swells to 2.7% of OS market

  1. #71


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    Seems more likely that many are buying portable things as well as using a proper machine.
    I think that is the point. I have a tablet for on the go. It is easier to carry than a laptop and has some additional functions that I use - e.g. Navigation. But I would never give up my PCs and live only on the tablet. Just imagine trying to do any serious video editing on the itty bitty screen, not to speak about the muscle the machine needs to do that conveniently.

    I have a bunch of friends who do the same. But nobody would give up their 22" screens and the power of a desktop.

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  2. #72


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    It's all these poor suckers that have to buy a new PC for one reason or another that make the Windows 8 inventory grow. If those new PCs were offered with an option of Windows 8 or Windows 7, the growth would dwindle. Already the sales people in the brick and mortar stores would recommend Windows 7 to avoid unneccessary trouble.
    Exactly.
    And since the PC sales are lower than past years that also explains the lower % scores the 8 OS gets.
    (without those poor suckers, 8 would be the poorest sucker)
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  3. #73


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    Let me first say that I am not the regular Windows lover. I was getting ready to move completely to Linux. But then I discovered the advantages of touchscreens, and after two weeks I have Windows configured the way it should have been by default. It would have been very easy for Microsoft to make Windows 8 easier to start using, and there are some problems that needs to be fixed, and some improvements to be made. But I can only say that Windows 8 with a touchscreen is a dream to use, and it gets better every day.
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  4. #74


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DMGrier View Post
    I think Microsoft is looking into the future, I can walk into any store and any kid under the age of twelve is more then capable of using a mouse especially kids over 4-5 but I see everyone of them using a touch screen feature. By no means am I saying the key board and mouse are going away but I do see what market Microsoft is really targeting which is not the 30+ years group because it is a dying market.
    I am in the 75+ group and I was buying PCs all the time. I won't any more. Windows 8 is killing the PC market unless you go with Linux. Fortunately I have enough PCs now that I can live for a while. And I am also moving to Linux Mint Mate. That is a good alternative. The installation and handling of Linux Mint Mate - Tutorial - Windows 7 Support Forums
    Don't care for MATE being that cinnamon is a far cleaner user experience, and point proven with you being 30+ group I mentioned. Don't get me wrong I prefer the traditional desktop any day but I understand the direction Microsoft is trying to go whether it works for me they don't really care, they are just trying to grab the younger generation
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    Quote Originally Posted by munin View Post
    Let me first say that I am not the regular Windows lover. I was getting ready to move completely to Linux. But then I discovered the advantages of touchscreens, and after two weeks I have Windows configured the way it should have been by default. It would have been very easy for Microsoft to make Windows 8 easier to start using, and there are some problems that needs to be fixed, and some improvements to be made. But I can only say that Windows 8 with a touchscreen is a dream to use, and it gets better every day.
    This can't be, a person who was going to Linux who finds Windows 8 a dream to use and it gets better every day. You know why this has happened, because he made an attempt.

    The only way Microsoft could have made Windows 8 easier is if they would have put building blocks on the screen, hang on.

    Anyway Munin let your story be an inspiration to others, Windows 8 is not the end of the world.

    I have been playing around with Mint for a few days now, there is no way on this planet I would give up Windows 8 to go onto Linux, except as a part time hobby.

    Years ago I was close but I was still into gaming, so back then it wasn't feasible either.
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  6. #76


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by munin View Post
    Let me first say that I am not the regular Windows lover. I was getting ready to move completely to Linux. But then I discovered the advantages of touchscreens, and after two weeks I have Windows configured the way it should have been by default. It would have been very easy for Microsoft to make Windows 8 easier to start using, and there are some problems that needs to be fixed, and some improvements to be made. But I can only say that Windows 8 with a touchscreen is a dream to use, and it gets better every day.
    This can't be, a person who was going to Linux who finds Windows 8 a dream to use and it gets better every day. You know why this has happened, because he made an attempt.

    The only way Microsoft could have made Windows 8 easier is if they would have put building blocks on the screen, hang on.

    Anyway Munin let your story be an inspiration to others, Windows 8 is not the end of the world.

    I have been playing around with Mint for a few days now, there is no way on this planet I would give up Windows 8 to go onto Linux, except as a part time hobby.

    Years ago I was close but I was still into gaming, so back then it wasn't feasible either.
    Ubuntu is getting close with the indie game buddle and steam for gaming but what killed me was Libre Office, works great on the printer but if you try to open it on Microsoft Office it looks all weird even though I do save it as a doc. or docx
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  7. #77


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    If you want a really good Linux OS, try SolusOS 1.3, or wait till 2.0 comes in the final Version. I think I shall wait with further comments on Windows 8 until I get a better Laptop than the one I have now. The problems I have are probably the fault of the computer, not Windows 8. Still an enjoyable experience.
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  8. #78


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    Quote Originally Posted by DMGrier View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by munin View Post
    Let me first say that I am not the regular Windows lover. I was getting ready to move completely to Linux. But then I discovered the advantages of touchscreens, and after two weeks I have Windows configured the way it should have been by default. It would have been very easy for Microsoft to make Windows 8 easier to start using, and there are some problems that needs to be fixed, and some improvements to be made. But I can only say that Windows 8 with a touchscreen is a dream to use, and it gets better every day.
    This can't be, a person who was going to Linux who finds Windows 8 a dream to use and it gets better every day. You know why this has happened, because he made an attempt.

    The only way Microsoft could have made Windows 8 easier is if they would have put building blocks on the screen, hang on.

    Anyway Munin let your story be an inspiration to others, Windows 8 is not the end of the world.

    I have been playing around with Mint for a few days now, there is no way on this planet I would give up Windows 8 to go onto Linux, except as a part time hobby.

    Years ago I was close but I was still into gaming, so back then it wasn't feasible either.
    Ubuntu is getting close with the indie game buddle and steam for gaming but what killed me was Libre Office, works great on the printer but if you try to open it on Microsoft Office it looks all weird even though I do save it as a doc. or docx
    I know, I've tried the el cheapo Office substitutes, but after a while you see the problems that you come across and it's back to Office. I used Ubuntu for quite a while back in the day, it was good then, it's slow now. I like Mint better now, but even that is not that great.
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  9. #79


    Quote Originally Posted by Lazure View Post
    All this talk of moving away from desktops. There are things that really can only be done properly on a desktop. For instance, gamers who enjoy a 20" or higher 1080p+ screen with 3D and top notch gpu performance and a real keyboard/mouse to interface with the games properly and comfortably. A tablet or mobile device could never replicate this. Even when they manage to fit a GTX 690 inside a tiny tablet, a gamer still won't wanna play such games by touching on a 10" screen.

    Don't get me wrong, I didn't say the desktop and laptop was dead. But you would have to be blind to NOT notice that sales are dwindling big time. You will always have gamers, you will always have hardcore enthusiast users who stay on a desktop/laptop, you will continue to have business desktop users who have a need for a full fledged PC. But these aren't the majority of users. The largest % of desktop users are moving to smartphones, tablets, etc...and they are finding less and less of a need to actually use their computers. In fact, many of them probably didn't have a need for a desktop/laptop anyway...that was just the form factor they had available to pick from. If you don't think that % of the market is huge, ask yourself why MS is scrambling and rebuilding a new touch centric interface for their OS, and coming hot and heavy with the Surface, the Windows Phone 8, etc.


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Seems more likely that many are buying portable things as well as using a proper machine.
    I think that is the point. I have a tablet for on the go. It is easier to carry than a laptop and has some additional functions that I use - e.g. Navigation. But I would never give up my PCs and live only on the tablet. Just imagine trying to do any serious video editing on the itty bitty screen, not to speak about the muscle the machine needs to do that conveniently.

    I have a bunch of friends who do the same. But nobody would give up their 22" screens and the power of a desktop.
    Well, we are the enthusiasts. I run dual monitors and find no value whatsoever in Metro apps as they consume too much of the screen and cannot be resized. We will be here for quite some time.

    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    This can't be, a person who was going to Linux who finds Windows 8 a dream to use and it gets better every day. You know why this has happened, because he made an attempt.
    Are you insinuating that if I just gave Windows 8 a better attempt, I would without a doubt fall in love with it?


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    The only way Microsoft could have made Windows 8 easier is if they would have put building blocks on the screen, hang on.
    I don't dislike 8 because I find it "hard" to use, I find it annoying and frustrating to use. Very different issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Anyway Munin let your story be an inspiration to others, Windows 8 is not the end of the world.
    But for many of us, it's hardly an improvement in any way on Windows 7. Unless you value a fast startup more than anything else.


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I know, I've tried the el cheapo Office substitutes, but after a while you see the problems that you come across and it's back to Office.
    Well, many of these issues wouldn't be issues if the main players had followed standards for documents and such. But they didn't. They stonewalled us into their own file formats and created a de facto standard that now causes us to either pay for the main player or struggle with the third parties.

    I find that I exchange very few documents with MS Office uses, so the Open Offices and Google docs of the world are just fine and dandy for me. I've no need to spend a single cent on MS office for home use. I can use that money for other things.
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  10. #80


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    I don't dislike 8 because I find it "hard" to use, I find it annoying and frustrating to use. Very different issue
    Patrick, that is exactly my point too. I have used Win8 for over a year now - so it is not a lack of experience. I even made a whole series of tutorials on it. But the darn thing is just not comfortable to use. You always stumble over this hybrid interface which makes you do additional detours.

    Now the enthusiasts would say that you can apply tweaks A, B and C and it will look like Windows 7. Well, in that case, I can stay just as well on Windows 7 which runs mighty fast and is very secure on my systems. If they want me to move to another OS version, it has to be right 'out of the box' - especially since they want my money for it.
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