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Windows 8 swells to 2.7% of OS market

  1. #251


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    No need, I'm simply waiting to see what you do when Microsoft brings back the start menu and makes the MPI optional.
    The horse is dead already. It ain't happening.

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  2. #252


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    That's because the software has to adapt around the mouse, not the other way around. But many many graphic artists, architects, all the above generally will use a touchscreen or a touch pad versus a mouse. Even most architects still draw plans by hand, THEN go to AutoCAD to make a digital copy give the buttcrack plumber to. Drawing with a mouse sucks, simple as that, at least compared to a touch input. Even Photoshoppers that use a mouse every day and all day that go to a Wacom Bamboo tablet will sing joyous praise of it because it makes things SSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better to use.

    I don't understand why anyone would use the mouse to draw, just because it's how people say to use a PC DOES NOT EVEN equate to a proper experience. You don't take a mouse and physically draw on a piece of paper do you? No.

    Also, I get pissy at the end of the day after drawing in AutoCAD as it's just too tedious of a task for me to do that I just become mildly rabid.
    The software is designed to work with a pointing device, be it mouse, pen, finger or toe. Photoshop, as an example, works with all of those inputs right now. No where have I said that anyone should use a mouse for drawing, or any sort of detailed work. Nor would I recommend using a finger for any detailed work.

    My only reference regarding the use of a mouse was with some photo manipulation, where it works quite satisfactorily. I use Lightroom and Photoshop frequently and the mouse is more than adequate. You've basically taken one comment completely out of context to create a false argument. Epic fail!
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  3. #253


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    No need, I'm simply waiting to see what you do when Microsoft brings back the start menu and makes the MPI optional.
    The horse is dead already. It ain't happening.
    And that authoritative announcement comes from where?
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  4. #254


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    And that authoritative announcement comes from where?
    New Windows Boss Confirms
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  5. #255


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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    And that authoritative announcement comes from where?
    New Windows Boss Confirms
    Note that the interview was conducted in Dec 2012: Interview with Julie Larson-Green, the Executive in Charge of Windows 8 at Microsoft Who Just Took Over from Steven Sinofsky. | MIT Technology Review. The world had not yet felt the full impact of the changes on the desktop interface. They have now.
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  6. #256


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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    And that authoritative announcement comes from where?
    New Windows Boss Confirms
    They are still all singing the same tune. They are up for a steep learning curve - or a big cut of their revenue.
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  7. #257


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    whs... we have one thing in common...

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  8. #258


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    IT people it seems don't care for actual CHANGES to a traditional method I've found. If it works, it works, leave it alone for 10 years. That's just the thinking, so touching Windows 8 isn't going to be worthwhile, but for EVERYONE else, that's otherwise.
    Once again, I will disagree with you. As an IT guy, we experience truckloads of change. New computers, new cell phones, new software, new employees, new everything. I moved from CentOS 6 from CentOS 5 very quick. We moved quickly from VMWare ESXi4 to ESXi5. We upgraded to Windows 7 very quickly. I personally downloaded and tried pretty much every release of Windows 8 before it came out. I've played with all of the releases of the new version of Office. I've bought iPads for work, I've bought Androids for work and I have a Surface Pro coming tomorrow. You can pretend all day long that I simply don't like change. And don't forget I'm sitting here posting using a Chromebook.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I have to say this, Windows 7 was actually the first REALLY touch centric OS. Go back to vista, and then use 7. What do you notice? Larger window control buttons, thicker border padding, larger Taskbar conveniently the size of the average tip of a human finger. If you use Windows 7, you're using a touch centric, touch optimize operating system. That's that.
    But yet, I've never utilized touch with it. Never wanted to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    And actually, false, if you have a new Windows 8 laptop PC that doesn't have touchscreen, you STILL have touch gesturing available to use with the touchpads on them. The very same swiping actions on a touchscreen are applicable to the touchpads, it's then just point and click. You can do that with Windows 8, right? Or do you have to buy a touch monitor to tap something open? I'm confused.
    Whoop de doo, I can slide in from the right and bring up the charms bar. And I can slide down from the top to bring up the menu bar in Metro Apps (which I don't use, at ALL). Pinch to zoom works like crap on any Windows 8 touchpad that I have ever tried. So, yes, while I could technically make use of the touch gestures to simulate the experience of a touchscreen monitor on a touchpad, I'm not. One could argue that clicking on an icon is like touching it, and pressing the physical buttons on my keyboard is touching it, but we both know that it's not the same thing.
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  9. #259


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    I have VMware Workstation (v7.1.6) and VMware Player (v5).

    I have a problem with my Ubuntu 10 VM with Copy and Paste to/from the host (it works one way, but not the other).
    It could be a problem with that VM though, as it was created by merging 2 Ubuntu VMs into one.

    It works correctly with my XP and W7 VMs.
    I'll have to check my Linux Mint VMs.
    I would be interested to know how the clipboard sharing works on your Mint. On my system it works for all systems (Ubuntu, Zorin, Windows8) except Mint.
    OK I just tried it.

    Using VMware Workstation (v7.1.6), I can't paste from W7 (host) to my Linux Mint VM.
    I can paste from my Linux Mint VM to W7 (host).

    I think that is the same behaviour that my Ubuntu 10 VM exhibits (I can't get a compatible VMware Tools for the current kernels).

    Have you considered:
    • Using the "Shared Folder" option?
    • Using a physical HDD partition?
    • Setting up Samba in your VM, so that you can talk to your Windows host?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    whs... we have one thing in common...

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    I use 150% of DPI, else I see very little. In Linux Mint that was more difficult because changing the DPI is not that easy. Here I did it with the Theme and Skin. Works great too.


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