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Windows 8 swells to 2.7% of OS market

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    If not being forced, why is there no optional desktop, aka Windows 7, available in Windows 8? All of my programs from Office 2010 to Adobe Creative Suite 4 and Lightroom, to my navigation programs, have touch capability on my Windows 7 tablet. But because of the screen size, touch with those programs is pointless unless I magnify the screen to 150-200%.

    I don't use apps, and what's available are pretty much rubbish anyway, so I removed Windows 8 and went back to Windows 7. Touch is fine on a phone or small device, but even on my 10" tablet it's far from useful. Even Blackberry acknowledged it's traditional userbase by providing a tactile keyboard on one of its new devices, as that is often far more effective than a touch screen keyboard.
    I don't know Ray you and some of your friends on here sound terribly bitter about something, it's as if Microsoft has come into your home and sucked your heart out.
    I don't know what your problem is and I don't care, but you seem to want to infect everyone else with your misery. Why don't you just stick with your old tech and watch as the world moves forward.

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    I am not sure it is touch itself they are pushing on the desktop users.

    It is the start screen. It fits with their strategy. It rears it's ugly head often and full screen and just happens to be the way into ms online services - bing stuff on there too - just desperate for you to fire them up - they have spent a fortune on it - and yet is has been overtaken by Yandex ( who?) -yes, exactly.


    Why don't you just stick with your old tech and watch as the world moves forward
    What is the relevance of that to win 8? It looks like the world does not really want win8 - it is hardly the way to "move forward" - whatever that means.
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    I think the luvvies are getting desperate, given that they are now trying emotional tactics rather than facts, which they fail at completely. Yes I agree, it's the user interface that I'm talking about and that really is the so-called crowning glory of Windows 8, the app screen. What's the opposite of the Oscars? Is it the Razzies? Then that's what the MPI deserves, a Golden Razzie for forsaking all the hard earned userbase for a bit of touchy feely fluff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I am not sure it is touch itself they are pushing on the desktop users.

    It is the start screen. It fits with their strategy. It rears it's ugly head often and full screen and just happens to be the way into ms online services - bing stuff on there too - just desperate for you to fire them up - they have spent a fortune on it - and yet is has been overtaken by Yandex ( who?) -yes, exactly.


    Why don't you just stick with your old tech and watch as the world moves forward
    What is the relevance of that to win 8? It looks like the world does not really want win8 - it is hardly the way to "move forward" - whatever that means.
    Some of you guys seem to hate everything coming from Microsoft, you hate touch, you hate Windows 8, you hate Surface, you hate Metro, you hate MPI if you give me a couple of minutes I could probably name another dozen things, you hate Windows phone.

    You guys could power a generator with your hate.
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    No idea why you think that.

    If you were really concerned about MS, you would realise what they doing now is not working for them. You would encourage them to take another approach.

    Pretending it is all marvellous and the customers/oems/anyone else is at fault is not going to help anyone - including MS.
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    Now the luvvies are really going downhill fast.
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    oh no, don't make ray8 cry again...
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    Some of you guys seem to hate everything coming from Microsoft, you hate touch, you hate Windows 8, you hate Surface, you hate Metro, you hate MPI if you give me a couple of minutes I could probably name another dozen things, you hate Windows phone.
    Nobody hates anything. We just want a suitable solution for a reasonable price - or we shop someplace else. There are many other options.

    Right now, the Windows 8 desktop solution is not suitable and the tablet solution is too expensive.

    Right now I am posting from Mint Nadia. A really nice OS for the desktop. You should try it. It is easy, fast and costs nothing. Plus it has a program library with 60.000 packages - some are superb. What else can you ask for.

    Here is a little video I made for the initial setup of Nadia (also called Mate). This is part of a series of little videos for the installation of Mint Nadia. It is not my 'Production System', just a little test system. have a look:

    Initial settings for Mint - YouTube
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    No idea why you think that.

    If you were really concerned about MS , you would realise what they doing now is not working for them. You would encourage them to take another approach.

    Pretending it is all marvellous and the customers/oems /anyone else is at fault is not going to help anyone - including MS.
    No idea why I think that, so you think all the taunting and vitriol is all in my head, don't think so. People and companies have to make tough choices sometimes, I'm sure they'd like to sit back and do nothing and keep a few old timers happy and just keep raking in the money, but that's not reality.

    I'm not jumping for joy with everything Microsoft does but I do see they have to stay in the game so I can understand they have to try new things, and I happen to think that combining every part of the OS onto tablets, phones and PCs is a bold move in the right direction.

    Im sure others don't agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Some of you guys seem to hate everything coming from Microsoft, you hate touch, you hate Windows 8, you hate Surface, you hate Metro, you hate MPI if you give me a couple of minutes I could probably name another dozen things, you hate Windows phone.
    Nobody hates anything. We just want a suitable solution for a reasonable price - or we shop someplace else. There are many other options.

    Right now, the Windows 8 desktop solution is not suitable and the tablet solution is too expensive.

    Right now I am posting from Mint Nadia. A really nice OS for the desktop. You should try it. It is easy, fast and costs nothing. Plus it has a program library with 60.000 packages - some are superb. What else can you ask for.
    So are you doing all your video editing from Mint, I highly doubt it. What you said about video editing and your PC it makes it sound as if you think the only PC that can do that is a Core I7 with 16GB of ram.

    Its funny I started video editing on a Pentium 2 266 and it seemed to be able to handle it okay, sure a lot slower, but it still managed, I probably started earlier on a Pentium 133.

    The Surface Pro will be much more than capable.

    Oh I have Mint, Ubuntu and Puppy, they're okay but you get what you pay for. Actually I like Puppy best, lean and fast.
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