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Windows 8 swells to 2.7% of OS market

  1. #141


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I ask myself this, except I wonder why YOU are on a Windows 8 forum spouting off nonsense about it and say it's your opinion about it and that's that. This is literally like going to a BMW 5 series forum and saying BMW 5 series sedans suck, or going to a Mazda 626 forum saying that the car sucks or even going to an NRA meeting and saying guns are terrible. YOU'RE GOING TO GET PEOPLE IN A FIT. Seems awfully pointless to be on a forum just to do so to express opinions about a product when that would be better suited towards the actual company of Microsoft.
    I think you have that quite rectum about. You think what I say is nonsense, but many here have exactly the same view. No one is complaining about the underlying OS, but merely the UI, which you are unable to comprehend why it is so. It may take some time, but that's why we're here.

    I am on car forums on the type of vehicles that I own and if I find that there is something not right about a vehicle, or a new iteration of same, I say so, as do many others. That's the whole point of forums, it's to discuss the good and the bad. Not everyone agrees with everyone else, but if forums were nothing more than places where everyone agreed on everything, they'd be pointless. This forum is not a church.

    Do you hang about with people that agree with everything and see everything in the world exactly like you do? I dread the thought. And speaking of your what you wrote in your last sentence, isn't this exactly what you're decrying, yet in the same breath supporting?

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  2. #142


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    ...I usually try to stick as close to the facts as I can..
    That's like saying someone is half pregnant. You either stick to facts or not.

    However, your repertoire is so expansive that us mere mortals can't quite comprehend your near omnipotence on all things technology.
    And I've been told I belittle people....

    Yeah I don't know what he meant, I hope he wasn't saying I'm impotent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Actually guys, I'm getting bored, Jimbo said the other day that the Windows 7 forums was a nice place for Windows 8 guys to hang out. I'm thinking of joining up to see if I can convert some Windows 7 devotees, I think I'd fit in well there.
    LOL.

    Convert them to what exactly?

    You do realise it is all about monetising the users. Gradually, by persistence and stealth.

    Do you really want people to end up with greater costs, less freedom, and less control. Somehow - I don't think you do.
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  4. #144


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    ...I usually try to stick as close to the facts as I can..
    That's like saying someone is half pregnant. You either stick to facts or not.

    However, your repertoire is so expansive that us mere mortals can't quite comprehend your near omnipotence on all things technology.
    And I've been told I belittle people....

    Clearly there are language and cultural differences between Australia and wherever you are from.

    To wit, you can't have almost-facts, half-facts or near-facts; just like you can't be half pregnant, it's all or nothing.

    And yes, I am simply gobsmacked by Bill's repertoire; point out anything and he's been there, done that. Legends don't come about too often and when they do, you sit back in awe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post

    That's like saying someone is half pregnant. You either stick to facts or not.

    However, your repertoire is so expansive that us mere mortals can't quite comprehend your near omnipotence on all things technology.
    And I've been told I belittle people....

    Clearly there are language and cultural differences between Australia and wherever you are from.

    To wit, you can't have almost-facts, half-facts or near-facts; just like you can't be half pregnant, it's all or nothing.

    And yes, I am simply gobsmacked by Bill's repertoire; point out anything and he's been there, done that. Legends don't come about too often and when they do, you sit back in awe.
    Thing is Ray I can prove everything I say quite easily, I don't have any desire to mislead people, which is why I get a bit hot under the collar when people pluck things out mid air.
    I haven't even told you everything simply because you seem to resent the fact that I've been around a bit and that I own a bit of tech stuff. I wont mention it again if you don't.
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    I think it's really silly that the biggest complaints about Windows 8 seem to have to do with 'booting to start screen' and 'no old start menu' and 'shutdown button'.

    booting to start screen: is it really the end of the world you have to click one tile after your computer starts up to get going? Or simply hitting the windows key on your keyboard since you had your hands there to type your password in already after all. Hardly a chore, and how often do you boot up anyways?

    no old start menu: just about everything you accessed easily in the start menu can be placed in the start screen just as well. i guess you miss out on the 'recent most used' list but eh... honestly i had no trouble adapting to the new screen. I pinned what i run most as well as the usual control panel/explorer/computer kinda stuff and it's just a winkey and a click (or winkey and some typing) away. Most of the 'less savvy' users I've seen just clutter their desktop with a gazillion icons and run their stuff from there anyhow...

    shutdown button: yeah i can see this being a pain, but once again-- just how often does a person shut off their computer anymore? usually smacking the power button on your desktop/laptop will sleep the thing and that's just as well. or, better yet, you could configure those buttons to invoke the 'shutdown' command and skip the win8 ui altogether. anyways, yes, it's harder to shut down in windows 8 but it's not like you do it often enough (why would you?) to warrant massive hate.

    My biggest complaints about windows 8 are purely aesthetic but it doesn't make me HATE windows 8, just makes me want to find a way to bring back those things, hopefully someday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Actually guys, I'm getting bored, Jimbo said the other day that the Windows 7 forums was a nice place for Windows 8 guys to hang out. I'm thinking of joining up to see if I can convert some Windows 7 devotees, I think I'd fit in well there.
    LOL.

    Convert them to what exactly?

    You do realise it is all about monetising the users. Gradually, by persistence and stealth.

    Do you really want people to end up with greater costs, less freedom, and less control. Somehow - I don't think you do.
    Trouble is SIW2 the tech world is already on that path with or without Microsoft, look at Apple, Google and Amazon, Facebook you name it we're screwed. Its too late the horse has bolted, nothing we do is going to win back our freedom.

    Me personally, I think our best path is to follow Microsoft, that is the path with the least amount of landmines, and its a technology most of the world already has.

    But hey, each to their own if the world ditches computers, I'm already halfway across both paths.
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    My biggest complaints about windows 8 are purely aesthetic but it doesn't make me HATE windows 8, just makes me want to find a way to bring back those things, hopefully someday.
    The aesthetics are the first things to dump if you're going to go on lesser machines like tablets, all those colourful pixels take a lot of power to push around. I'm sure Microsoft will give us back the aesthetics when its safe to do so.
    I'm quite liking the cleaner modern look at the moment, tiles yeah could be better, but I can wait. One thing I will say is that those tiles look great on a large screen TV.
    Actually, is it just me or am I already seeing more color in the tiles and the ones in the Store, maybe just wishful thinking.
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  9. #149


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Thing is Ray I can prove everything I say quite easily, I don't have any desire to mislead people, which is why I get a bit hot under the collar when people pluck things out mid air.
    I haven't even told you everything simply because you seem to resent the fact that I've been around a bit and that I own a bit of tech stuff. I wont mention it again if you don't.
    Are you implying that I mislead and pluck things from mid-air? If so, kindly provide some examples.
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    Bizarre answer.

    I suppose if some people are ripping you off and abusing you - then it is ok for everyone to do it?

    Exhorting folk to follow where MS wants to lead them is collaborating.



    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Actually guys, I'm getting bored, Jimbo said the other day that the Windows 7 forums was a nice place for Windows 8 guys to hang out. I'm thinking of joining up to see if I can convert some Windows 7 devotees, I think I'd fit in well there.
    LOL.

    Convert them to what exactly?

    You do realise it is all about monetising the users. Gradually, by persistence and stealth.

    Do you really want people to end up with greater costs, less freedom, and less control. Somehow - I don't think you do.
    Trouble is SIW2 the tech world is already on that path with or without Microsoft, look at Apple, Google and Amazon, Facebook you name it we're screwed. Its too late the horse has bolted, nothing we do is going to win back our freedom.

    Me personally, I think our best path is to follow Microsoft, that is the path with the least amount of landmines, and its a technology most of the world already has.

    But hey, each to their own if the world ditches computers, I'm already halfway across both paths.
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