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    And hot on Canonical's heels we have Google: Google Developing Touchscreen Devices Using Chrome Operating System - WSJ.com.

    And they're not stopping there: Chromebook Pixel vs. other Chromebooks: fight!.

    With document capability: Chromebook Pixel to have integrated Quickoffice, able to open docs natively.

    I think there's a fight on.
    Last edited by Ray8; 21 Feb 2013 at 17:18.

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    I read a couple of articles about the uber Chromebook Google is putting out.

    $1000 is an awful lot to spend on a web browser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sashlon View Post
    I read a couple of articles about the uber Chromebook Google is putting out.

    $1000 is an awful lot to spend on a web browser.
    I was gobsmacked at the price as well ($1500). So is there something to justify the cost and not just the screen resolution? A core i5 processor might mean that you could install another OS.
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    I guess I just see no point to the Chromebooks in general.

    If I could walk into a store and buy a machine (tablet or laptop) that runs Ubuntu natively, I'd probably buy it. Even though my attempt to install Ubuntu on my old laptops failed, I was able to play around with it offline enough to see that it could b interesting to use. Especially as a secondary machine. Ubuntu is a real OS, with programs and feautures. Chrome OS is just a glorified web browser. I dont understand why anyone would pay a significant amount of $$$ for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sashlon View Post
    I read a couple of articles about the uber Chromebook Google is putting out.

    $1000 is an awful lot to spend on a web browser.
    I was gobsmacked at the price as well ($1500). So is there something to justify the cost and not just the screen resolution? A core i5 processor might mean that you could install another OS.

    Maybe. It still seems like a total waste of money to me.
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  6. #56


    Quote Originally Posted by sashlon View Post
    I guess I just see no point to the Chromebooks in general.
    With the current generations of Chromebooks, the prices have been cheap. I have one sitting here with me right now. Samsung Chromebook 303C. It was $249. 16GB Flash Storage, USB 3.0 port, USB 2.0 port, HDMI output, SDcard reader, headphone/microphone jack, webcam, wifi, multipoint touchpad, and full size keyboard. And it came with 100GB of free space for 2 years on Google Drive.

    Here it is sitting next to my Dell Latitude E6400 laptop with a 14" display
    Click image for larger version

    Here is a size comparison to my Latitude,
    Click image for larger version

    For me personally, it's a great coffee table device for surfing the web. Since I type a lot, troll forums, read email, check facebook and shop online, this little device for $249 does all of those things outstandingly for me.

    It awakes from sleep in 1.8 seconds. It cold boots to logon in 8.9 seconds. It powers off completely in 2.4 seconds. It lasts 6-8 hours on a charge. It weights 2.5lbs. (as a reference, my Latitude E6400 weights 5.5lbs). I weighed them both on the postal scale at work. And it's 100% fanless, and never gets warm. Since it has no mechanical hard drive, this thing makes no noise whatsoever.

    The natural question is, "well, it's useless when your internet is down". But then so is my email, facebook, these forums, etc....so who cares.

    Since it is just a "glorified" browser...if stolen it likely has nothing of any value on it. If you have a problem, you can reset it to factory defaults and this takes just under 2 minutes to completely wipe it. Since I use gmail and Chrome, it's automatically setup for my email and it syncs my bookmarks, my add-ons, and everything as soon as I connect. And in the event you do lose it, you are only out $250. Same goes if it's damaged, etc.

    And it's easily repairable. Just today, I unfortunately had to replace the 11.6" LCD screen because it was stepped on and cracked. The screen was $49.99 from laptopscreens.com, and I was able to install it and have it working in under 20 minutes.
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    And serious getting they are:

    Chrome OS update auto-arranges windows, allows multi-display desktops

    Chrome OS being a web-based platform doesn't preclude the existence of power users -- see the Chromebook Pixel. Google wants to encourage them with software, too, which is why it's rolling out a new update to the stable Chrome OS code. The new version automatically positions windows to show more whenever a user hasn't customized the look, and there's now official support for extending a desktop across multiple screens.
    Chrome OS update auto-arranges windows, allows multi-display desktops
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    I have been playing with ubuntu now for a couple of days, and tried both 12.10 and now 12.04 LTS. 12.04 is better, and smoother.

    To start, I am not slamming Ubuntu, just stating my first impressions of Ubuntu at this time, and they are not entirely favorable.

    The wubi installer is a slight PIA to get working properly.
    ...
    12.04, things open fast, but there are some apps that have been recommended, so I went looking and installed them, either they don't work anymore, or they are hard to find, and for the ones that don't work anymore, development has stopped.
    I have read quite a few comments from people complaining about:

    • WUBI (use a VM or a physical install).
    • The bloat in Ubuntu 12.10 slowing it down


    IMO, Unity and GNOME 3 are awful.
    They would be the most likely culprits regarding the problem of old software not working.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Linux has far too many flavors, and trying to find one you like is a daunting task in of itself. Then you have different shells, and again, finding one you like takes a lot of time. Then, you have to worry about having things work even across shells.
    Too many choices is a problem, just like no choices.
    If you don't like Metro and you don't want to install 3rd party software to kill it, you are out of luck.

    All the pointless deviations, from "standard" Linux Distro schema in Ubuntu, have upset a lot of users.
    According to some stat sites, Ubuntu lost its #1 position amongst Linux Distros, once they "forced" Unity on long time users.
    The new #1 (according to those sites) is Linux Mint.

    Because I could not get the ATI video drivers to work on my PC, I replaced Ubuntu 10 with Linux Mint 14 (MATE).
    Linux Mint 14 (MATE) ran all of my hardware out of the box.
    Best of all, no awful Unity or GNOME 3 GUIs.

    How much of your usage is being "accidentally" collected by Google, when you use a Chromebook?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    And hot on Canonical's heels we have Google: Google Developing Touchscreen Devices Using Chrome Operating System - WSJ.com.

    And they're not stopping there: Chromebook Pixel vs. other Chromebooks: fight!.

    With document capability: Chromebook Pixel to have integrated Quickoffice, able to open docs natively.

    I think there's a fight on.
    Don Kwikoats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sashlon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sashlon View Post
    I read a couple of articles about the uber Chromebook Google is putting out.

    $1000 is an awful lot to spend on a web browser.
    I was gobsmacked at the price as well ($1500). So is there something to justify the cost and not just the screen resolution? A core i5 processor might mean that you could install another OS.

    Maybe. It still seems like a total waste of money to me.
    I'm going to state the obvious, but I'd buy that chromebook pixel so I can install Windows 8 on it. What an over the top piece of computing hardware for a web browser...
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