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There is no Plan B

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    There is no Plan B


    Microsoft has not made much of a dent in Apple's and Google's domination of mobile computing, but a top executive has hinted that it will not stop trying and does not have an alternative strategy.

    "We're very focused on continuing the success we have with PCs and taking that to tablets and phones," Microsoft's chief financial officer Peter Klein said at the annual Goldman Sachs Technology and Internet Conference in San Francisco.

    Given Microsoft's lack of success so far, he was asked if there was an alternative strategy or 'Plan B' in reserve.

    "It's less 'Plan B' than how you execute on the current plan," said Klein. "We aim to evolve this generation of Windows to make sure we have the right set of experiences at the right price points for all customers."
    Microsoft Mobile | Windows Phone 8, Surface Tablet | No Plan B

    Then listen to your customers, separate the desktop from the MPI and give people what they want!

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    Sorry Ray M$ will use its cash horde to try and get a foot hold in the smart phone fad and ignore its customer base there is no hope.
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    Cash or not:

    Android and Apple have extended their near duopoly with a whopping 91 per cent of the global smartphone market in the fourth quarter, a survey shows.

    Google's Android system was used on 70.1 per cent of smartphones shipped in the quarter, while Apple held 21 per cent, according to research firm IDC.
    Android, Apple Extend Smartphone Market Share Dominance | iPhone

    Good luck.

    If Windows 8 and RT had been separated and RT was just for the mobile space, maybe they would have had a chance. Device manufacturers are shying away from RT and Apple/Android users don't see a need for it or Windows 8. And Windows 8 users don't want RT on their desktop (excepting those Windows 8 luvvies on this forum).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Cash or not:

    Android and Apple have extended their near duopoly with a whopping 91 per cent of the global smartphone market in the fourth quarter, a survey shows.

    Google's Android system was used on 70.1 per cent of smartphones shipped in the quarter, while Apple held 21 per cent, according to research firm IDC.
    Android, Apple Extend Smartphone Market Share Dominance | iPhone

    Good luck.

    If Windows 8 and RT had been separated and RT was just for the mobile space, maybe they would have had a chance. Device manufacturers are shying away from RT and Apple/Android users don't see a need for it or Windows 8. And Windows 8 users don't want RT on their desktop (excepting those Windows 8 luvvies on this forum).
    Have you noticed the polls on this Forum, you're the one in the minority, about 70% are warming up to Windows 8, while you keep on hating. You hate Windows 8, you hate Windows RT, you hate Surface RT and you hate Surface Pro, you're a hater not a lover.
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    I have yet to see any poll, anywhere, where a clear question results in a 70% favorable rating for win8.
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    You seem to ignore the fact that the polls also reveal that the majority do not like the MPI on the desktop.

    I don't know where you get the idea that I hate Windows 8; afterall, I use it and purchased licences for it. I also don't use other than Microsoft products, nor buy new Apple/Android devices every time that I travel, and I also seem to know more about Windows 8 and what's inside than you do.

    I'm merely pointing out some home truths of gross marketing failure and underestimation of what the market really wants. Yes there are a few that lap it all up and blame the users, most of the time not even understanding what the criticisms are about. Others just seem to behave as if they work for Microsoft, attempting to deflect every criticism with obtuse and irrelevant arguments.

    Some simply don't want to face the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    You seem to ignore the fact that the polls also reveal that the majority do not like the MPI on the desktop.

    I don't know where you get the idea that I hate Windows 8; afterall, I use it and purchased licences for it. I also don't use other than Microsoft products, nor buy new Apple/Android devices every time that I travel, and I also seem to know more about Windows 8 and what's inside than you do.

    I'm merely pointing out some home truths of gross marketing failure and underestimation of what the market really wants. Yes there are a few that lap it all up and blame the users, most of the time not even understanding what the criticisms are about. Others just seem to behave as if they work for Microsoft, attempting to deflect every criticism with obtuse and irrelevant arguments.

    Some simply don't want to face the truth.
    The problem is Ray you seem to come up with an awful lot of criticisms. I'll tell you what I'll do, if you find some positive stuff on the net about any of the items I've mentioned and post them on here, I'll start taking you more seriously.

    If you post a few positive comments on the above items, I'll take you more seriously. The way it is at the moment you sound like something out of Grumpy Old Men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    You seem to ignore the fact that the polls also reveal that the majority do not like the MPI on the desktop.

    I don't know where you get the idea that I hate Windows 8; afterall, I use it and purchased licences for it. I also don't use other than Microsoft products, nor buy new Apple/Android devices every time that I travel, and I also seem to know more about Windows 8 and what's inside than you do.

    I'm merely pointing out some home truths of gross marketing failure and underestimation of what the market really wants. Yes there are a few that lap it all up and blame the users, most of the time not even understanding what the criticisms are about. Others just seem to behave as if they work for Microsoft, attempting to deflect every criticism with obtuse and irrelevant arguments.

    Some simply don't want to face the truth.
    The problem is Ray you seem to come up with an awful lot of criticisms. I'll tell you what I'll do, if you find some positive stuff on the net about any of the items I've mentioned and post them on here, I'll start taking you more seriously.

    If you post a few positive comments on the above items, I'll take you more seriously. The way it is at the moment you sound like something out of Grumpy Old Men.
    When I do post anything positive, you always seem to be missing in action, probably playing with another Apple/Android device most likely.

    But on a forum like this, when you keep getting posts like 'Windows 8 isn't the problem, it's the user.', then clearly people are failing to understand the issues that concern many Windows 8 users. If the message is failing to get through to astute forum members, then how on earth is it going to get through to Steve Balmer and others at Microsoft?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    You seem to ignore the fact that the polls also reveal that the majority do not like the MPI on the desktop.

    I don't know where you get the idea that I hate Windows 8; afterall, I use it and purchased licences for it. I also don't use other than Microsoft products, nor buy new Apple/Android devices every time that I travel, and I also seem to know more about Windows 8 and what's inside than you do.

    I'm merely pointing out some home truths of gross marketing failure and underestimation of what the market really wants. Yes there are a few that lap it all up and blame the users, most of the time not even understanding what the criticisms are about. Others just seem to behave as if they work for Microsoft, attempting to deflect every criticism with obtuse and irrelevant arguments.

    Some simply don't want to face the truth.
    The problem is Ray you seem to come up with an awful lot of criticisms. I'll tell you what I'll do, if you find some positive stuff on the net about any of the items I've mentioned and post them on here, I'll start taking you more seriously.

    If you post a few positive comments on the above items, I'll take you more seriously. The way it is at the moment you sound like something out of Grumpy Old Men.
    When I do post anything positive, you always seem to be missing in action, probably playing with another Apple/Android device most likely.

    But on a forum like this, when you keep getting posts like 'Windows 8 isn't the problem, it's the user.', then clearly people are failing to understand the issues that concern many Windows 8 users. If the message is failing to get through to astute forum members, then how on earth is it going to get through to Steve Balmer and others at Microsoft?
    I hear you loud and clear Ray, and I'm sure Steve Balmer has too, but it's getting a bit stale, besides how do you know they're not working on some of the so called problems right now.

    I read a story about Adobe and Photoshop yesterday, like the founder said, they try to look after everyone, but everyone has different ideas, hence the amount of baggage in Photoshop.

    Someone said they should rewrite it from scratch, he said it would take about 10 years and might never get finished. It's a complicated world and coding isn't easy.
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    It never gets stale. The day people stop talking about it, is the day that Microsoft (and some here on the forum) declares that there's not a problem, everyone has accepted Windows 8 as being a great product.
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