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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Cash or not:

    Android and Apple have extended their near duopoly with a whopping 91 per cent of the global smartphone market in the fourth quarter, a survey shows.

    Google's Android system was used on 70.1 per cent of smartphones shipped in the quarter, while Apple held 21 per cent, according to research firm IDC.
    Android, Apple Extend Smartphone Market Share Dominance | iPhone

    Good luck.

    If Windows 8 and RT had been separated and RT was just for the mobile space, maybe they would have had a chance. Device manufacturers are shying away from RT and Apple/Android users don't see a need for it or Windows 8. And Windows 8 users don't want RT on their desktop (excepting those Windows 8 luvvies on this forum).
    Have you noticed the polls on this Forum, you're the one in the minority, about 70% are warming up to Windows 8, while you keep on hating. You hate Windows 8, you hate Windows RT, you hate Surface RT and you hate Surface Pro, you're a hater not a lover.
    Ya, and what's wrong with that? He doesn't like Windows 8. A lot of people don't like Windows 8. Why does this bother you?

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    Just one example:

    Windows 8 Tells Microsoft About Everything You Install, Not Very Securely | Nadim Kobeissi

    You really didn't know ?

    For those who find little squares easier:

    Click image for larger version
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  3. #53


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I didn't post that Ray, it might look like I had from a quick glance at your above quote. Please correct it. Wouldn't want anyone to think I would say anything like that.
    Sorry about that. The quote system on this forum is awkward, as everything in a thread is quoted, rather than just the poster's statement, and if not careful, you tend to stuff things up at times.
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    Yep, I know it was an accident.
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  5. #55


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Oh well, if that's the case, I'll probably have another break from the site for a while, because it becomes a bit boring, well a lot boring really. That's why I took a few months off not long ago it's a bit depressing hearing the same stuff over and over.

    Just once, well more than once, I'd like to come on here and listen to some positive stuff.....
    Perhaps you should consider, given your words above, whether you are part of the problem you are complaining about!

    I'm personally actually seeing a lot of positive stuff about how Win 8 could be remediated by MS to be actually useful to ordinary users, and lot of negativity from fanbois who just wont tolerate anyone suggesting its not perfect as it is.
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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    I'd just like to point out another issue that I discovered with the MPI. I have managed now to get the MPI to open up in the right hand screen of my dual monitor setup and have the left hand monitor clear for desktop programs. However, every time I open a desktop program, the MPI disappears.

    I can attach a second monitor to my tablet, but again I hit the same snag, the MPI disappears the moment you want to do something on the other screen. It's clear that the design has completely ignored the desktop user and it's been created solely for single screen use. Everything is designed around a mobile phone screen. That's plain dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post

    Who is actually wanting to turn a new operating system into an older one? All we are talking about is the look and feel of the interface - personalisation.
    So if personalization is the issue why are you against 3rd party tools? You realize that millions of users heavily theme Windows 7 and do so using 3rd party tools, it's not available OOTB. So why is it accepted to personalize W7 with 3rd party tools and not W8?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post

    Who is actually wanting to turn a new operating system into an older one? All we are talking about is the look and feel of the interface - personalisation.
    So if personalization is the issue why are you against 3rd party tools? You realize that millions of users heavily theme Windows 7 and do so using 3rd party tools, it's not available OOTB. So why is it accepted to personalize W7 with 3rd party tools and not W8?
    I'm not against third party tools, but Microsoft removed the very basics that so many want. But then you know that already and all you are doing is trying to deflect the patently obvious. No gold stars or elephant stamps for you my boy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    And this is why the fight continues so many thick skulled can comprehend that Windows 8 can do whatever the user wants it to do.
    No it doesn't. Without resorting to third party programs, I can't have the user interface that I enjoy with Windows 7.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Also, there is a definitive difference between criticism and constructive criticism. No one listen to criticism unless if it's constructive. So far, there hasn't been a single person against Windows 8 that has offered a good piece of constructive criticism.

    "It needs a start menu!" Said every Windows 8 dissenter.
    "It needs a facebook app!" Said every person that doesn't understand what the term "desktop browser" means.
    Very noble of you to so bluntly disparage anyone who doesn't agree with your view of the world or who doesn't come up to your standards.
    Then why continue complaining about a product you don't use, don't like, nor don't care for? If you don't like it, then just use Windows 7 and be done with it. Seems like a waste of your time to complain on a forum that isn't related to Microsoft directly or indirectly, it'd be better worth the while to complain directly to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post

    Who is actually wanting to turn a new operating system into an older one? All we are talking about is the look and feel of the interface - personalisation.
    So if personalization is the issue why are you against 3rd party tools? You realize that millions of users heavily theme Windows 7 and do so using 3rd party tools, it's not available OOTB. So why is it accepted to personalize W7 with 3rd party tools and not W8?
    I'm not against third party tools, but Microsoft removed the very basics that so many want. But then you know that already and all you are doing is trying to deflect the patently obvious. No gold stars or elephant stamps for you my boy.
    This is how the Start Screen is like the menu, no one wanted to theme or skin the menu EVER. Becomes a screen, demand customizations. I don't see how the "basics" were removed. The basics are there and are just very basic. Third parties can change that, much like EVERY other facet of Window.
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