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  1. #11


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I've never been a big Linux fan partly because of the UIs on many of them remind me of the mac os, and subsequently apple. No.

    Also, needing to be really involved in the OS to make programs work. Ain't nobody got time for that!
    I bet you never used ANY live cd before and just saw the promotional UI like the bad Unity from Ubuntu and stuff that looks like mac. Aside from the docks or whatever holds the icons and the grey colored look, you have a lot of color choices for the UI.

    There are many choices of UI's. You've probably just seen the Macs.
    Some of the downside is the extra time needed for customizing but on Windows you aren't even allowed to customize so much and for some people who really like customizing, they make time for that.

    But you're right, there is a bunch of people who never customize, true.

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  2. #12


    Webster NY US
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    Win 7 / Win 8


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    lsmod | grep -e b43 -e b44 -e ssb -e ndis
    sudo /etc/init.d/wifi-fix.sh
    cat /etc/init.d/wifi-fix.sh
    ls -al /etc/init.d/wifi-fix.sh
    dmesg | grep -e wlan -e ndis

    Loosely translated,, Greetings Earthlings, I'm from the planet Mint, I'm here to help you with all your problems.
    Ah yes, but the ease of documentation is awesome here. I'd much rather have a text file full of these commands, than a word document full of screen shots and click here, and check this, and go to this tab, and click on apply, and click Next, Next, Next, etc.
    Or how about an ever-growing registry full of incomprehensible items that eventually clog your machine? Ugh.

    It's been awhile since Linux forced a user to get down and dirty with a command line to activate a feature.

    I haven't tried this with Windows 7 or Windows 8, but whenever I've replaced a motherboard on a PC, Windows would beg me to reinsert the installation CD a few times as it frantically recognized new hardware. Linux would just come up and quietly recognize everything and work. I think the Linux haters need to take a fresh look at what is out there.
    Last edited by mbratch; 12 Feb 2013 at 15:04.
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  3. #13


    Um, I work with Linux boxes on a daily basis and those commands are quite relevant these days.

    Heck, nearly every Linux box I use is command line only. No gui is ever installed on them. I would say 99.5% are gui free.
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  4. #14


    Never been to Heaven......
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    Dual Boot: Back to W7 and Ubuntu 12.04


    I find it easier most times to go to command line for most things. As far as just your average email, game of cards, facebook type folks, yes the terminal is useless, but if you need to blacklist a driver or install a driver or something as SU a terminal is the way to go...

    I have a habit of of opening the terminal every couple of days and doing the repo update and DE updates (sudo apt-get update). Yes I know this can be done all in the GUI but That way I can watch what is going on in the text lines (and I sit back and pretend like I am about to be sucked into the world of TRON)

    But you all are correct, if you haven't looked at a modern Linux Distro, try a live cd or two. I think you will be very suprised at how far it's come

    Geeve
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  6. #16


    Webster NY US
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    Win 7 / Win 8


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Um, I work with Linux boxes on a daily basis and those commands are quite relevant these days.

    Heck, nearly every Linux box I use is command line only. No gui is ever installed on them. I would say 99.5% are gui free.
    Apologies. I didn't intend to say lack of relevance. However, an average user doesn't really need to do command line, which was my primary point. For the last many years, the GUI options available have improved to the point that one doesn't generally need the command line if they don't want to mess with it. If you do like the command line and even want it by itself, sure, Linux will let you do it. It's flexible that way.

    BTW, I've had cases in Windows where I've had to revert to CMD prompt to take care of a problem. So Windows isn't immune to the more arcane methods.
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  7. #17


    Quote Originally Posted by mbratch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Um, I work with Linux boxes on a daily basis and those commands are quite relevant these days.

    Heck, nearly every Linux box I use is command line only. No gui is ever installed on them. I would say 99.5% are gui free.
    Apologies. I didn't intend to say lack of relevance. However, an average user doesn't really need to do command line, which was my primary point. For the last many years, the GUI options available have improved to the point that one doesn't generally need the command line if they don't want to mess with it. If you do like the command line and even want it by itself, sure, Linux will let you do it. It's flexible that way.

    BTW, I've had cases in Windows where I've had to revert to CMD prompt to take care of a problem. So Windows isn't immune to the more arcane methods.
    Not only that, Microsoft is actually relying more and more on the PowerShell on the server based products....which is......COMMAND LINE (Hooray)!. Heck, there is actually quite a bit of stuff that you "used" to be able to do in the Exchange Server console (GUI) that you cannot do any more from the GUI, you HAVE to do it from PowerShell.

    When you have to do repetitive tasks, and scheduled tasks, it's SOOOO much easier to do it from commandlets and scripting than it is through a graphical interface.
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  8. #18


    If you have ever seen or used the Windows Server Core (2008 or later) you know what it's like to run Windows without a GUI. Prior to Windows Server 2012, the choice of Core or full version was made at installation time: in Server 2012 you can go from GUI to Core and back without a reinstall of the OS. There's also a new "limited GUI" option available (not at installation time but after installation).

    My early Unix experience was nearly all command-line. I haven't done a lot with Linux, but I like the GUI. The terminal is handy for those familiar with Linux/Unix commands but (as was stated) it's not generally necessary. Linux Mint (I am running "Maya" - Linux Mint 13) and is extremey easy to use. Even someone who's never seen or used Linux should be quite comfortable with Mint - probably more so with Mint than with some of the other distributions.
    Last edited by TerryE; 12 Feb 2013 at 15:19.
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  9. #19


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    Windows 8.1 Professional x64


    Tried Netflix on Mint and the video was choppy as hell. That was after going through the motions to actually get it working at all. I like Mint, but the support for many things just isn't there. My sound card, for instance, does not work nearly as well in Linux because of the total lack of official and unofficial driver support. And let's face it, the only reason anyone complains about 8 is because of Metro, which is basically Android with less app support.
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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    It's issues with dual monitor support, some drivers etc that show that Linux isn't quite there yet, but I have a feeling that things are going to change and the way that Microsoft appears to be heading, may be the catalyst for that necessary change.
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