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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Yes, we had numerous Windows 7 tablets in our offices that were full computers.
    You must have been wrapped in them, they had a Start Menu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    You take lots of things out of context. The screen resolution is so high that trying to use the classic desktop is not a fun task. I was expecting to find a ton of value and potential in this device, however I am disappointed thus far. Maybe with more time I will come around, but the fact that the Surface is sitting on the table next to me and my wife is using her HP Laptop and I'm using the Chromebook doesn't bode well for the poor Surface Pro.
    It's not surprising at all, Im sure if Ray8 had one it would be in the rubbish bin.
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    Here is another annoyance. One of the best things about WIndows 8 is being able to bring up the Start menu and just start typing what you are looking for. Problem is, without a keyboard, on the Surface Pro you cannot just start typing. Instead, you have to swipe in from the right, pull up the charms bar, click on search, and then start typing. Rather cumbersome.

    Also, there is no key on the surface that will bring up the Start Screen. You cannot touch in the lower left corner to bring up the Start Screen. Instead you have to swipe in the charms bar from the right and click on Start there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    You take lots of things out of context. The screen resolution is so high that trying to use the classic desktop is not a fun task. I was expecting to find a ton of value and potential in this device, however I am disappointed thus far. Maybe with more time I will come around, but the fact that the Surface is sitting on the table next to me and my wife is using her HP Laptop and I'm using the Chromebook doesn't bode well for the poor Surface Pro.
    That's exactly what I found with my Fujitsu P1610, which has a 8.9" screen. The resolution is only 1280x768, but for the screen size, way too high. That's why I like the 1024x600 resolution of my 10" Gigabyte, it's so much easier to work with documents etc. I'm using the Gigabyte right now. High resolution is fine for viewing video and photos, but can be a real pain for text based work.
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    Lots of things do look good. For example, while in Control Panel, even at 1920x1080 it looks incredibly nice.

    But when I was at a command prompt, doing an ipconfig /all to get the MAC address of the device to add into my MAC address filter list on my router, it was a squint-fest to determine whether it was 58: or 5B: or 53:
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    Bill (and a few of his cohorts) appears to not have a Windows tablet PC, yet shouts out the virtues constantly and is quite prepared to rubbish the opinions of those who do have them and use them daily. How can you justify this if you don't own the product?
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    Well, I don't want to speak for anybody, but I think there is a belief that we are just 100% Microsoft naysayers and we aren't going to like a single thing. That is simply not true. I call things like I see them. Some things I really like, others not so much. But it's all based on how I use a computer.

    For example, I love the Microsoft Ergo 4000 keyboards and I have 4 of the Intellimouse Trackball explorers. They are absolutely fantastic products. And I raved about Windows 7 since the first release I played with. I also see value in quite a number of Windows 8 things too (fast boots, iso mounting, hyper-v, better dual monitor support, embedded OEM license keys, etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Have a look at the Surface Pro what's wrong with that, it's the first full computer on a Tablet, are the bloggers impressed no, they continually mock it.
    Again, absolutely and totally false. You don't even seem to care one jot that you're lying through your teeth all the time.

    There have been numerous tablets prior to the Surface that were full computers, under anyone's definition, running various versions of Windows and able to run any Windows programs.

    You seem to think that you can keep lying and people will begin to believe those lies.
    Probably a poor choice of words, more like the first full Windows OS built specifically for a touch tablet, might have been better. Don't get your knickers in a knot Mr Ray you'll do yourself an injury.
    Poor choice? Bloody pathetic. And in many ways Windows 8 is not that much of a leap from what came before it. My Fujitsu P1610 came with Windows XP Tablet Edition, which was designed for use with a pen. Window 7 is very effective as a touch device, if you want to use it that way, so all Windows 8 has introduced is touch with the ability to use more gestures, which doesn't add any value to desktop programs. Even Windows CE is touch enabled.

    I think the only one likely to be injured is yourself, as you trip over your tongue with all of these mistakes (to put it politely).
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    I've owned a BlackBerry Playbook, Ipad 2 and a Asus eee Slate. I currently own a Google Nexus 7 and a Microsoft Surface RT. So, I feel like I can comment with a little knowledge on the subject.

    Ipad 2: the Ipad is a toy. My 5yo son loves his. I found that you can have fun with it, but it's not very useful as a tool.

    BlackBerry Playbook: people deride this device, and but it's actually pretty slick. In terms of its UI, it runs rings around the Ipad. Of course it's app shortage was a fatal problem. It has one of the best tablet Web browsers.

    Asus eee Slate: this was a killer device. I loved the thing. Windows 7 kind of ducked on it, but once I installed windows 8CP it was fantastic. Unfortunately it was terribly bulky and heavy. It also had a subpar graphics card.

    Google Nexus 7: this is IMHO the best eReading device money can buy.

    Microsoft Surface RT : easily the most powerful and enjoyable tablet I've ever used. It needs more apps, but there a still plenty available. My go to device. My Dell laptop sits on my desk, always on for remote desktop action.

    Not everyone who likes windows 8/Surface is clueless about tablets and mobile computing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
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    Again, absolutely and totally false. You don't even seem to care one jot that you're lying through your teeth all the time.

    There have been numerous tablets prior to the Surface that were full computers, under anyone's definition, running various versions of Windows and able to run any Windows programs.

    You seem to think that you can keep lying and people will begin to believe those lies.
    Probably a poor choice of words, more like the first full Windows OS built specifically for a touch tablet, might have been better. Don't get your knickers in a knot Mr Ray you'll do yourself an injury.
    Poor choice? Bloody pathetic. And in many ways Windows 8 is not that much of a leap from what came before it. My Fujitsu P1610 came with Windows XP Tablet Edition, which was designed for use with a pen. Window 7 is very effective as a touch device, if you want to use it that way, so all Windows 8 has introduced is touch with the ability to use more gestures, which doesn't add any value to desktop programs. Even Windows CE is touch enabled.

    I think the only one likely to be injured is yourself, as you trip over your tongue with all of these mistakes (to put it politely).
    I really don't know what you're on about Don Q, on the one hand you're saying its not much of a leap, on the other it's a huge leap and people can't understand it. Windows CE is not a full blown Windows operating system.

    Just because you can't see value in something doesn't mean others can't, some of the smartest people in the world at the time rubbished computers as being nothing more than a novelty and a toy, much the same rhetoric as you're using now, and yet here we are 40 years later arguing across the void of space through computers.

    I'd just like to know why you've got such a bee in your bonnet over something as simple as this. Stick with Windows 7 until you can see some benefit in using Windows 8. Use Mint, use Ubuntu, it's a free country, pick something. Make your complaints and move on, we know how you feel about Windows 8.

    Me, I like it and can see a way through the fog, and I'll keep using it.

    I'll try not to lie through my teeth in future Ray.
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