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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I don't have any business expense options that I can exercise. I don't run any business or have income unrelated to my w2 day job. I like to ensure that I pay my fair share of taxes...too many weasels our there who take advantage and leave lower income folks footing the bill.
    Hi there
    as self employed I have to pay Social security for both EMPLOYER and Employee, I don't get Holiday / sick / or even unemployment pay and have to provide for my own retirement - the basic state pension even in Nordic countries is not very good so when I can get a break I take it.

    It's not guys like us -- but some of those Bankers etc who get their businesses bailed out by the taxpayer -- and then walk away with huge bonuses - and their lawyers are STILL foreclosing people often for very tiny amounts of mortgage arrears -- anyway I'm not going down that route any more suffice to say self employed people do have to work for what they get (and I KNOW it's my choice ).

    Anyway the point is that SSD prices are coming down quite rapidly --and we should soon see some really useful capacities probably with even more enhanced performance improvements.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I understand how difficult being self employed is, my wife used to do it.

    I wasn't trying to call you a weasel. I was referring to the people who are employed by somebody, but then run some type of business which does nothing but operate at a loss to take business expenses. I have friends who have done this and it just seems like a shady way to pay for a vacation or buy computer parts and claim them as expenses.

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  2. #142


    Here is a great example of the problem

    Facebook Paid No Income Taxes In 2012: Report
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  3. #143


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Here is a great example of the problem

    Facebook Paid No Income Taxes In 2012: Report
    That's a problem.

    I'm personally getting annoyed with facebook. It's getting to the point where I'm using my Windows Phone or probably use the People app on Windows 8 instead of the site. There are now all these scumbag adverts in my news feed, page suggestions to like that I don't care for, all on top of the normal adverts. Since they released their IPO, they've been pulling a google and focusing heavily on advertising as part of one goal. I don't like it nor care for it.
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  4. #144


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post

    That's why I like tablets so much, you don't always need a full blown PC when you're getting older, but there are occasions when you do, which is where the Surface Pro will come in handy, you wont need a desktop anymore. To be perfectly honest I cant wait till the day I don't need a desktop anymore at all.

    But even though I'm getting older I still love tech and new advancements, which is why I'm wrapped in Windows 8 especially for my HTPC's.
    I find trying to work on a tablet sucks ass. I'm in no hurry to get rid of a desktop. Give me a full size keyboard, and large multi monitor support, and ability to swap out hard drives and other components.

    Tablets to me are only incrementally better than working on my smartphone.

    And while I love tech, I don't have any love for Windows 8. It's just such a poor disjointed experience as far as I am concerned. Down the road, I think it will get better, but right now I cannot use it for anything real.
    That's why I want to get rid of the desktop I've got that many drives I cant remember what they're all for, dual boots, triple boots etc. I now want a simple life.

    I haven't had a side on a PC for about 10 years because I swap drives so much, plus it helps keep it all cooler.

    Exactly. Not for everyone. Most people need two to three devices. I just need one.


    Here's my post in the review thread:




    Hello everyone!


    I was one of the few lucky in Frisco, TX to have got one of the 128 Pro on release day.

    As you can see, there was quite a bit of a line there since this seemed to be the only place that had them in the area. There was like 100 in front of me at 10:30 and another 50-75 behind or so until they started telling people they were sold out.









    As you can see with my setup, browsing 3 windows and the ability to use my Surface if I wanted to, is pretty freaking amazing! I love it this way so I can just hook it up when in my room, and have my full pc in the living room when I want to go in there or anywhere else. I have a desktop that i'd like to move away from since I really don't use it for anything, but occasional Photoshop and video editing. No gaming, so I don't have a graphics card.
    The HD 4000 works impressively fine for my needs.

    Today, I messed with the power options and i'm trying to debate on keeping my desktop. The negatives I faced was when using Adobe Flash vid on some sites. I was able to find the slowest processor speed while keeping the temps down with smooth enough vid. I took care of any wifi issues to my NAS in the living room from the WDTV Live Plus with a USB 3 hub to run my USB 3 desktop hard drive and USB 3 to ethernet adapter to eliminate any network lag so I can pretty much do away with the desktop for good now.





    And to add to that, now I have all the Android apps I want to with Bluestacks. Had an Asus Transformer and just sold it. Glad I don't have to deal with Android anymore, but if I have to use an Android app, i.e Instagram, I can.
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  5. #145


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    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post

    I find trying to work on a tablet sucks ass. I'm in no hurry to get rid of a desktop. Give me a full size keyboard, and large multi monitor support, and ability to swap out hard drives and other components.

    Tablets to me are only incrementally better than working on my smartphone.

    And while I love tech, I don't have any love for Windows 8. It's just such a poor disjointed experience as far as I am concerned. Down the road, I think it will get better, but right now I cannot use it for anything real.
    That's why I want to get rid of the desktop I've got that many drives I cant remember what they're all for, dual boots, triple boots etc. I now want a simple life.

    I haven't had a side on a PC for about 10 years because I swap drives so much, plus it helps keep it all cooler.

    Exactly. Not for everyone. Most people need two to three devices. I just need one.


    Here's my post in the review thread:




    Hello everyone!


    I was one of the few lucky in Frisco, TX to have got one of the 128 Pro on release day.

    As you can see, there was quite a bit of a line there since this seemed to be the only place that had them in the area. There was like 100 in front of me at 10:30 and another 50-75 behind or so until they started telling people they were sold out.









    As you can see with my setup, browsing 3 windows and the ability to use my Surface if I wanted to, is pretty freaking amazing! I love it this way so I can just hook it up when in my room, and have my full pc in the living room when I want to go in there or anywhere else. I have a desktop that i'd like to move away from since I really don't use it for anything, but occasional Photoshop and video editing. No gaming, so I don't have a graphics card.
    The HD 4000 works impressively fine for my needs.

    Today, I messed with the power options and i'm trying to debate on keeping my desktop. The negatives I faced was when using Adobe Flash vid on some sites. I was able to find the slowest processor speed while keeping the temps down with smooth enough vid. I took care of any wifi issues to my NAS in the living room from the WDTV Live Plus with a USB 3 hub to run my USB 3 desktop hard drive and USB 3 to ethernet adapter to eliminate any network lag so I can pretty much do away with the desktop for good now.





    And to add to that, now I have all the Android apps I want to with Bluestacks. Had an Asus Transformer and just sold it. Glad I don't have to deal with Android anymore, but if I have to use an Android app, i.e Instagram, I can.
    I think you're doing the Windows thing right.
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  6. #146


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    Nice to see someone post that has the Surface Pro, thanks.
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  7. #147


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    Everybody saw that coming with microsofts inetable endless surface rt commercials. So some thing 50x stronger and better will sell even faster even if double the price. I call it the surface craze. But im not feelin it.

    Thanks for the info tho.
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  8. #148


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I've been going to the site for a few days just to see how people are going with their new gadget, overall the comments seem fairly positive. Better than I've seen on early Android tablets and even just as good as a lot of IOS gadgets.
    Actually a majority of members are very happy, I believe there was one case I recall where the Surface RT just didn't work out for someone so he sold it. I believe he intended to buy the Pro when it came available though. Based on what I see on the sight and comments or reviews I see on sites like best buy by consumers they rate the Surface RT very high (not only hardware but RT also). It's the tech bloggers that use it for 5 mins so they can write a review or people that have never used it and just have an opinion that call it a failure, doa, etc.
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  9. #149


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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I've been going to the site for a few days just to see how people are going with their new gadget, overall the comments seem fairly positive. Better than I've seen on early Android tablets and even just as good as a lot of IOS gadgets.
    Actually a majority of members are very happy, I believe there was one case I recall where the Surface RT just didn't work out for someone so he sold it. I believe he intended to buy the Pro when it came available though. Based on what I see on the sight and comments or reviews I see on sites like best buy by consumers they rate the Surface RT very high (not only hardware but RT also). It's the tech bloggers that use it for 5 mins so they can write a review or people that have never used it and just have an opinion that call it a failure, doa, etc.
    Seems to be my experience with most people who HATE W8 too -- OK we know it has one or two problems but most of the "Ordinary" I.E non Tech people I've seen actually quite like it.

    The biggest gripes seem to be coming from I.T support personnel or very heavy corporate power users who may well have legitimate concerns for example Maintaining Windows 8 installations for 1000's of users who may want quite different desktops etc doesn't fit easily into often quite rigid business structures, or they may be maintaining several servers via command line interfaces etc or both.

    From a Corporate maintenance point of view having a "Mobile Phone" type of GUI obviously isn't a great idea -- but W8 appeared to be designed for CONSUMERS first. Businesses can quite easily remain on W7 for the next several years if they want to -- some are only just now switching from XP.

    However things like tablets will become more common place in business - and the surface pro seems to be doing it's job (although I'd have changed the hardware around a little) so the I.T guys will just have to learn to handle W8 -- doesn't mean they have to like it of course.

    Would anybody really want to go back to a Non Touch OS on a tablet -- it was Touch in the first place that spawned the whole idea of tablets.

    My other problem with a lot of I.T Pros these days that unlike a few years ago when these guys new and used all the latest OS'es and "Toys" they've rather got behind the curve now --not necessarlliy their own fault as companies being hit by recession have had I.T budgets cut too. So a lot of these guys haven't had the experience or even know about some of the latest equipment and OS'es that their users are playing with.

    This puts the whole perspective of a lot of the "Technical Blogs and Articles" in perspective -- many writers have had just cursory experience of the equipment and if their first 10 mins with it was not exactly like what theu used previously - then they'd pan the gear.

    I'd wait until around 3Q13 before one could even begin to get any real feel for users experiences with the Surface Pro.

    Hardware wise of course one needs to be able to add more RAM and change the internal disk -- having an internal disk soldered in place so it's not changeable is just plain stupid IMO --nearly every laptop I've ever bought I've generally changed the standard - usually poor HD for either a faster larger capacity one or an SSD and increased the RAM to the maximum for the device (normally 2 slots = 8GB) with significant improvements in performance even on modest spec laptops. This should be possible to do too on the Surface Pro.


    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10. #150


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    The Surface Pro has a mSATA standard connector SSD.
    It can be upgraded, it's just nearly impossible to get the case opened.
    It was rated a 1 out of 10 for internal accessibility.

    They need to have a door on the back to access the SSD and RAM for upgrading.
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