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Microsoft's 'Blue' not just for Windows

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    Of course - it is all for your own good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I can just imagine ad driven software. Halfway through a Word document, you get interrupted by an ad for printer ink for your specific printer (which is identified through your device manager) and you can't get out of it until it's played completely through. A helpful service brought to you by your software company.
    I hope you are wron. At that time I would disconnect from the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredledingue View Post
    Coke, I don't think there was a two years patern for issueing new Windows versions. It happens that XP lasted a very long time, just after the developement period of Windows: W95, W98, W98SE, ME, 2000 and XP + the NT serie. With XP it was the end of the W9x serie and the start of the NT serie as only OS. From that point we had XP, XP SP1, XP SP2 and XP SP3. A technical but necessary evolution. With Vista they changed the look and feel of XP SP3, but the basics are still the same. If not for Aero, you could have called XP SP4 as well, and W7, XP SP5.
    Perhaps with W8 we will see faster changes in the look-and-feel, as the strategy at Microsoft becomes more fashion based. With the handheld devices, mobile computering became even much more commercial, much more based on short term demand and trend. That's why they came up with Metro: If something booms on the smartphones app area, they want to make sure they can port it on Windows instantly.
    There was a period where Windows was at a two year release. The general consensus says that Microsoft releases, on average, a new Windows version every 2-3 years. The thing is though, before 95, it wasn't on that cycle for obvious reasons. After vista came 7 less than three years later. There was a cycle of 98 to 2000 in two years, xp a year later, and vista slated for October 2003. There was SOMETHING there to suggest a two year cycle, and they should had done that because if they had, Windows would had been better suited to match current trends and different PCs quicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I can just imagine ad driven software. Halfway through a Word document, you get interrupted by an ad for printer ink for your specific printer (which is identified through your device manager) and you can't get out of it until it's played completely through. A helpful service brought to you by your software company.
    Office 2010 Starter had something like that, except it never bothered you during document work.

    I don't get this notion that Microsoft is somehow becoming google and becoming a primary advertising company. They just aren't. There are things even in the guidelines of metro app designing that DOES NOT ALLOW advertising on live tiles or adverts to pop up anywhere like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I read that they are going to start that blue stuff in Office too. With Office 2013 and Office 365 that is going to get really confusing.
    Some speculation that the Blue wave will be from Bing.com to Outlook.com to SkyDrive to the Desktop to Office to IE and on. If anything, it just seems like a rapid release cycle that google chrome is on, mostly just code tweaks but nothing too major, some UI addons and improvements.
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    Coke, I am not sure that this will be for minor tweaks. If they want to charge us, they will have to put meat on the bone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I don't get this notion that Microsoft is somehow becoming google and becoming a primary advertising company. They just aren't. There are things even in the guidelines of metro app designing that DOES NOT ALLOW advertising on live tiles or adverts to pop up anywhere like that.
    How do we know that? Who is to say things don't change. You know, as some keep saying 'evolve or die'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I don't get this notion that Microsoft is somehow becoming google and becoming a primary advertising company. They just aren't. There are things even in the guidelines of metro app designing that DOES NOT ALLOW advertising on live tiles or adverts to pop up anywhere like that.
    How do we know that? Who is to say things don't change. You know, as some keep saying 'evolve or die'.
    How do YOU know that? I know that because that's been stated in white papers released from Microsoft about metro app development for Windows 8 that bans that, if an app is submitted and is found to violate that commandment, it's not released. Also, Microsoft doesn't have a history of using user data history and private information in emails to advertise to you, nor tracks you across Bing to Outlook or SkyDrive to advertise personally to you. They just don't and they most likely won't because they KNOW that's what differentiates them from google.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    How do YOU know that? I know that because that's been stated in white papers released from Microsoft about metro app development for Windows 8 that bans that, if an app is submitted and is found to violate that commandment, it's not released. Also, Microsoft doesn't have a history of using user data history and private information in emails to advertise to you, nor tracks you across Bing to Outlook or SkyDrive to advertise personally to you. They just don't and they most likely won't because they KNOW that's what differentiates them from google.
    I never suggested that it will happen, I merely suggested that things can change. I've heard companies say many things that supposedly will never happen, yet they do. And on that note, isn't Windows 8 and the app stores supposed to emulate, or try to catch up with, Apple and Google and their app store business models, because that's apparently where Microsoft is falling behind in the consumer market?

    White Papers are concept documents and readily disposable, just like this:

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    Bing was overtaken by Yandex - check it out - you might like it.

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    Yandex


    Don't they do apps which contain ads - usually free ones?

    Aren't there even some ads in the bundled crapps?


    I don't know what is going on the store - wasn't the review posted up here recently complaining the music app showed a bunch of ads ?

    How are they going to target them - bit of waste beaming tampon ads to Ray 8 - you might think they would send him something he is more likely to be suckered into buying.
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