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Is the Xbox a sign of the future

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    Is the Xbox a sign of the future


    Does this give some clues are to where Microsoft is heading with Windows 8?

    Microsoft’s next console will require an Internet connection in order to function, ruling out a second-hand game market for the platform.
    The next Xbox: Always online, no second-hand games, 50GB Blu-ray discs and new Kinect | News | Edge Online

    And:

    You’ve got to admire Microsoft’s bravery. News that its next Xbox could shut out the second-hand games market has caused strong reactions across social media today, and it has impacted upon the real world too. GameStop’s share price took a dent following the publication of our story earlier this afternoon.
    Risky business: the next Xbox versus PlayStation 4 | Features | Edge Online

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    Well, there goes any (slim) chance of me purchasing one. Constantly tied to the 'net? No 2nd-hand games? No, thanks! I'll pass.
    Wenda.
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    Good, now I can get rid of my Wii and get an XBox and buy my games online and cut out the middle man. Hey, now I'll be able to try out smart glass.
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    Is just a big grin permissible as a reply? I've had an Xbox for years and Mr Microsoft has been using a Wii all this time?
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    Oh, this idea that Microsoft will be pushing something more internet connected on the new Xbox isn't new. There were rumors of not even HAVING a disk player at all, and focus on downloaded content.

    But rumors are rumors, this is no different.

    Speaking of rumors though, considering that the new Xbox is reported to be running the Windows NT kernel like Windows 8, along with pretty powerful AMD hardware, I have to say that this will have an indirect benefit for PC gaming. Seeing as how console port overs to the PC are basically half-arsed things that don't put a high end graphics cards through its motions as the hardware on them are ELDERLY; newer high end hardware on consoles will FINALLY allow game developers to utilize hardware correctly. For Windows 8 and the Xbox in this situation, the Microsoft ecosystem that is finishing completion will fully show WHY and HOW being a denizen of Microsoftia is such a great thing: a game from Rockstar developed on the new Xbox will have such a simple port to the Windows PC (whether this will be under the Xbox Games for Windows title is yet to be seen) that if a development company doesn't, it's just laziness. Also, a great PC game can make it over to the Xbox, resulting in more revenue and sales for that company as the interchangeable would basically allow Xbox developers to tap untapped markets and PC developers tap those markets. And then, an Xbox Game title on Windows Phone can be popped over to Windows and even the Xbox and have those game achievements and scores transfer on each device as well as leaving off where you last left off. Also, I wonder if something like Steam could happen on the new Xbox.

    Now, I don't know what a game from Xbox that is ported over to Windows will be under the Xbox Games for Windows title. Seeing as of RIGHT NOW, those games are meant for Windows RT tablets so they run on Windows Phone. But since Windows Phone has DirectX gaming like Windows 8, (this has yet to be tapped by game developers like Unity to show what can be really done on these devices) this could be changed. I'd love to see the Xbox Games app on Windows filter out the games for Windows based on your PC's hardware. So something like Crysis can't be installed or ran on an Intel Atom based system as to prevent the obvious, it could also make MUCH better use of the Windows Experience Index scores, as they were intended for something like this.

    Lots of potential for development and growth here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Is just a big grin permissible as a reply? I've had an Xbox for years and Mr Microsoft has been using a Wii all this time?
    I've told you before Ray, you should listen more closely, I'm a tech nut, not just a Windows user like you. I use a variety of devices which gives me the opportunity to see the world from a wide angle.

    That's why you're so upset that Microsoft isn't listening to your pleas. To me it's just another tech company trying to survive in the jungle, I don't expect it to listen to me, well unless there really is something wrong.

    To you, Microsoft is your company and it should do everything according to your needs, if it steps out of line, you're going to give it a flogging.

    Me, I just expect it to stay afloat and keep trying something new to keep it afloat. I happen to think its doing a pretty good job at the moment, regardless of all the BS press, this is something MS has to live with. It's the Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan of the Tech world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Is just a big grin permissible as a reply? I've had an Xbox for years and Mr Microsoft has been using a Wii all this time?
    I've told you before Ray, you should listen more closely, I'm a tech nut, not just a Windows user like you. I use a variety of devices which gives me the opportunity to see the world from a wide angle.

    That's why you're so upset that Microsoft isn't listening to your pleas. To me it's just another tech company trying to survive in the jungle, I don't expect it to listen to me, well unless there really is something wrong.

    To you, Microsoft is your company and it should do everything according to your needs, if it steps out of line, you're going to give it a flogging.

    Me, I just expect it to stay afloat and keep trying something new to keep it afloat. I happen to think its doing a pretty good job at the moment, regardless of all the BS press, this is something MS has to live with. It's the Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan of the Tech world.
    How magnanimous of you to presume that you are superior to, and to demean, anyone that raises any criticism of Windows 8. There should be a Hall of Fame for individuals, like yourself, who are so enlightened that mere mortals are less than shadows in your midst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Is just a big grin permissible as a reply? I've had an Xbox for years and Mr Microsoft has been using a Wii all this time?
    I've told you before Ray, you should listen more closely, I'm a tech nut, not just a Windows user like you. I use a variety of devices which gives me the opportunity to see the world from a wide angle.

    That's why you're so upset that Microsoft isn't listening to your pleas. To me it's just another tech company trying to survive in the jungle, I don't expect it to listen to me, well unless there really is something wrong.

    To you, Microsoft is your company and it should do everything according to your needs, if it steps out of line, you're going to give it a flogging.

    Me, I just expect it to stay afloat and keep trying something new to keep it afloat. I happen to think its doing a pretty good job at the moment, regardless of all the BS press, this is something MS has to live with. It's the Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan of the Tech world.
    How magnanimous of you to presume that you are superior to, and to demean, anyone that raises any criticism of Windows 8. There should be a Hall of Fame for individuals, like yourself, who are so enlightened that mere mortals are less than shadows in your midst.
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    I'd love to see the Xbox Games app on Windows filter out the games for Windows based on your PC's hardware. So something like Crysis can't be installed or ran on an Intel Atom based system as to prevent the obvious,

    No, can't agree with that. I've always enjoyed trying to get things to run on systems and OSes that they technically shouldn't. To me, it's just an inherent part of computing. And I've had some surprising successes (you should come play with my WfW 3.11 setup!!). I wouldn't like to see my ability to do that taken away simply because others can't do it, or don't understand the risks/dangers of trying. That IS 'dumbing-down', in its most insidious form.

    Wenda.

    *Edit: - Just uncovered a selection of working 'vintage' PCI graphics cards, so now I can get the Gfx working properly on my W95 and earlier setups. They don't like the 32MB TNT2 AGP that much, it's too 'modern'. :-( *
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