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  1. #21


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    It seems that you have come to the conclusion that everyone considers the Surface a failure which, I guess when stated enough, becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. Maybe it was a failure from the outset, when even the true believers assume that no one likes the Surface.

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  2. #22


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    Hi there
    Review seems fine to me -- I don't have any issues in running photoshop while travelling already on a laptop with an 11 inch screen - wouldn't have any problems on the tablet either -- and the stylus pen type device is just fine for photoshop.

    I'd pass on the keyboard since I could always use a USB hub and sling on a conventional keyboard if I need a keyboard in "Laptop" mode and the storage capacity for on board movies etc can always be increased via the use of a decent size micro sd card or even an external USB disk --remember it's WINDOWS we are running so you can attach conventional Windows devices via the USB port -- and a 4 port USB3 hub doesn't cost much anyway.

    In a hotel etc - where you can output to a decent size TV or monitor -- it can work very conveniently in laptop mode.

    I think these things will actually sell far better than most people predict -- just because they don't sell 5 trillion in the first 10 secs after release doesn't make the product a failure.

    A lot of US businesses tend to fail because they think TOO SHORT TERM. This is the first of these sorts of devices --
    better / other models will appear for sure.

    The ist iteration of a product isn't usually the best one. Look at the penny farthing bicycle -- if development had remained at that stage we wouldn't have the excellent range of bikes we have now (and in some cases the electric ones are brilliant too).

    enc screenshot of the first "bicycles".

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    jimbo
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    "The ist iteration of a product isn't usually the best one. Look at the penny farthing bicycle -- if development had remained at that stage we wouldn't have the excellent range of bikes we have now (and in some cases the electric ones are brilliant too)."

    Unfortunately some people think that the Wright Brothers should have invented the Boeing 747 with a capacity to go around the Equator 3 times without refuelling.
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  4. #24


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    Indeed, smartphones, tablets, computers, etc are such a recent development that we are all utterly amazed at what they can already do. It's utterly incredible what Microsoft has produced out of thin air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Indeed, smartphones, tablets, computers, etc are such a recent development that we are all utterly amazed at what they can already do. It's utterly incredible what Microsoft has produced out of thin air.
    Absolutely correct it is, considering that Tim Cook said that you could not combine a Fridge and a Toaster, I think Microsoft have pulled it off.

    Oh, and Tim Cook should know, he is the inventor of the world, but I somehow think we have our own Tim Cook.
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    The Surface cools beer and makes toast? I think I might need to get one.
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    If it could even do one of those things (beer), I think it'd be an instant home run.

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  8. #28


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    It was never going to be easy.

    Checking that your product doesn't contain some ghastly deal breaker is one thing.

    How testing is done and results are interpreted has it's own difficulties.

    Getting an indictaion of whether a market exists and how big it might be is something else.

    When companies are desperate they may decide to rush things/take big risks.

    Sometimes that kind of enforced courage works out - sometimes not.
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  9. #29


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    Tim Cook said that you could not combine a Fridge and a Toaster
    I am afraid the reviews I have seen agree with him.

    However, if it does keep my drinks cold and make toast - I might buy one.

    That is pretty small and light - for a fridge.
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    It is too early to call.

    I don't know if this kind of hybrid will take off - or end up as a curious niche product.

    However, if it does turn out to be a niche - and it is not the future with hundreds of millions using these things totally replacing their other devices - then what for MS.

    They are fortunate they can mess it up and not go immediately bankrupt.

    What if the whole win 8 split personality thing turns out to be a damp squib.

    Of course they will sell a reasonable number. That is because ( according to estimates ) about 300m people will buy a pc over the next 12mths.

    Unless they have the entry price for a Mac (which many don't ) , they get windows. There is no viable choice.


    Surface Pro reviews are in

    The end result is that it's not a good laptop, and not a good tablet. In other words, the idea that Surface is a 'no compromises' device is a bunch of nonsense..

    All this has solidified my belief that Windows 8, as it stands now, was the wrong way to go
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