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  1. #181


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    [QUOTE=SIW2;195399]Do you think it would be wise for MS to go into direct competition with the oem's ?[QUOTE]

    I think Microsoft wants to emulate Apple and control the hardware and software side of things to a large extent. OEMs have been Microsoft's life support since inception, but nothing lasts forever and with Balmer in charge, he may view things differently. The problem is, how far can Microsoft go, or afford to go, before it reaches a tipping point and alienates the OEMs completely.

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  2. #182


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    How about the OEMs release decent quality products with great design?
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  3. #183


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    What are you using for precision input?


    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    Hello everyone!


    I was one of the few lucky in Frisco, TX to have got one of the 128 Pro on release day.

    As you can see, there was quite a bit of a line there since this seemed to be the only place that had them in the area. There was like 100 in front of me at 10:30 and another 50-75 behind or so until they started telling people they were sold out.









    As you can see with my setup, browsing 3 windows and the ability to use my Surface if I wanted to, is pretty freaking amazing! I love it this way so I can just hook it up when in my room, and have my full pc in the living room when I want to go in there or anywhere else. I have a desktop that i'd like to move away from since I really don't use it for anything, but occasional Photoshop and video editing. No gaming, so I don't have a graphics card.
    The HD 4000 works impressively fine for my needs.

    Today, I messed with the power options and i'm trying to debate on keeping my desktop. The negatives I faced was when using Adobe Flash video as the temps went up. I was able to find the slowest processor speed while keeping the temps down while maintaining smooth enough video. I took care of any wifi issues to my NAS in the living room from the WDTV Live Plus with a USB 3 hub to run my USB 3 desktop hard drive and USB 3 to ethernet adapter to eliminate any network lag so I can pretty much do away with the desktop for good now.


    Currently a Logitech Anywhere MX, K400 keyboard, and Touchpad T650 from the desktop as they all work with the unifying usb.

    Don't know if I want to ditch them yet. T650 works great when I start feeling some carpal tunnel from the mouse and just want to sit back and browse away from the desk. If those three were only bluetooth...
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  4. #184


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    It would be great if MS went into hardware big time . The best thing for everybody. Go for it Stevie B.

    We will be cheering you on.
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    I think OEMs have been slightly wary about Windows 8 and have therefore been reluctant to over-commit to significant tablet development for the time being. They have clearly been avoiding Windows RT and are probably happy to leave that space to Microsoft. However, a lot of work has ben happening with laptops and ultra-books, and many of these have received very good reviews.
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  6. #186


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I think OEMs have been slightly wary about Windows 8 and have therefore been reluctant to over-commit to significant tablet development for the time being. They have clearly been avoiding Windows RT and are probably happy to leave that space to Microsoft. However, a lot of work has ben happening with laptops and ultra-books, and many of these have received very good reviews.
    Windows RT is a platform of high standards that most OEMs are turning away from, Microsoft isn't going to allow crap RT tablets like android has.

    And no, OEMs were pissy at Microsoft back with Windows 7 that they didn't make a proper tablet operating system of Windows and instead just made Windows more touchable. They've been wanting a good touch capable version of Windows as android tablets have been more of a loss for them than anything as they obviously don't sell well unless they're like 200 dollars and don't do anything more, quite literally, other than for facebook.

    Not much has been done with laptops or ultrabooks besides putting touchscreens on mostly the already expensive ultrabooks or making convertible touch tablet/laptops. As for an ACTUAL tablet, like a Surface Pro, hasn't happened and probably won't until Nokia comes out with their Windows 8 Pro tablet, as they've actually decided against RT as well since an x86 based tablet has more potential. BlueStacks for Windows is such an example of further potential.
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    Dream on Mr Robot, Microsoft will allow any sort of device to be manufactured, be it out of cardboard, chewing gum and string, if it sells RT licences. However, I wouldn't be surprised if RT dies a quiet death in a fairly short timeframe; it's like having a friend come along on hot date, making it awkward for everyone.
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  8. #188


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Dream on Mr Robot, Microsoft will allow any sort of device to be manufactured, be it out of cardboard, chewing gum and string, if it sells RT licences.
    No, they won't. I don't know if you understand, but Microsoft was fundamentally involved in the development of current Windows RT devices and made damned sure they were top notch and not subpar, as well as vigorously testing them, and suggesting what should be changed or fixed to improve them. Ever wonder why there are only a small handful of RT tablets? That's what Microsoft approved, and won't be approving the release of any other RT tablets this spring.

    Windows RT isn't android, it has standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Dream on Mr Robot, Microsoft will allow any sort of device to be manufactured, be it out of cardboard, chewing gum and string, if it sells RT licences.
    No, they won't. I don't know if you understand, but Microsoft was fundamentally involved in the development of current Windows RT devices and made damned sure they were top notch and not subpar, as well as vigorously testing them, and suggesting what should be changed or fixed to improve them. Ever wonder why there are only a small handful of RT tablets? That's what Microsoft approved, and won't be approving the release of any other RT tablets this spring.

    Windows RT isn't android, it has standards.
    Pray tell how you seem to know so much of what Microsoft does behind closed doors?

    The rest of us just have to rely on news reports by tech writers, who are often guessing what is happening and relying on what manufacturers tell them.
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  10. #190


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Dream on Mr Robot, Microsoft will allow any sort of device to be manufactured, be it out of cardboard, chewing gum and string, if it sells RT licences.
    No, they won't. I don't know if you understand, but Microsoft was fundamentally involved in the development of current Windows RT devices and made damned sure they were top notch and not subpar, as well as vigorously testing them, and suggesting what should be changed or fixed to improve them. Ever wonder why there are only a small handful of RT tablets? That's what Microsoft approved, and won't be approving the release of any other RT tablets this spring.

    Windows RT isn't android, it has standards.
    Pray tell how you seem to know so much of what Microsoft does behind closed doors?

    The rest of us just have to rely on news reports by tech writers, who are often guessing what is happening and relying on what manufacturers tell them.
    Report: Microsoft kept tight control over Windows RT devices - Neowin

    Maybe I just read, that's why.
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