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  1. #111


    Is M$ new plan to become like the fruit company and kill the PC?
    He is doing a good job with the metro ui.

    Microsoft Is a Killer for the PC Industry, Says Former Employee - Softpedia

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    Considering that Microsoft (under Gates) always considered that software was the most important aspect, anyone could build hardware, it'll be interesting to see where this goes.

    Noting that Ubuntu is releasing a mobile phone interface, and there's no way they could have done this, or get any traction, if they didn't have support from at least one major hardware company and maybe more. Samsung and perhaps one of the Chinese companies comes to mind, as it's been reasonably well hinted at that Samsung isn't overly happy with Google's Android policies and Chinese companies would prefer not to be tied to any US company, so a more open sourced OS would be very tempting.

    Take into account that Linux Ubuntu etc, have all the trappings of a full blown OS, able to run desktop programs and with a reasonable wealth of programs available, with Ubuntu also developing a tablet/touch capability, then there is a very real possibility for Linux to get significant traction after years of being in the doldrums. Noting also that Linux is used extensively in back-end systems, it's simply an opportunity in the waiting.

    Microsoft's current directions could be the catalyst for Linux to really rise in the next few years, with not a lot of development work required and with a very large base of technically savvy people able to make the most of it and provide extensive support. Not suggesting that anything like this will be happening, but just saying.
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  3. #113


    The only reason that M$ is in the position it is now is because of the partnership with manufactures installing Windows on there boxes. Mess that up and something else will replace it.
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    with a very large base of technically savvy people able to make the most of it and provide extensive support.
    Yeah, referred to as Lin-Nazis. Sorry, I have perused a number of Linux Forums, and it's still pretty bad.
    Take someone who wants to learn linux and have them post, "I used to do this in Windows, how do I do it in Linux?"
    And watch the MS Haters come streaming out of the woodwork like carpenter ants on fire, or cockroach infested apartment.
    Slam the person for asking such a question and belittle the whole thing and the question never gets answered.
    Sorry, the community still has a lot (correction: A TON) of maturing to do.

    However, with that said, This new direction of Ubuntu is an interesting and quite exciting one.
    I am very interested in seeing what comes of it.

    As I have stated before, if MS sends the desktop GUI the way of the dinosaur and refers to it as a legacy platform, this could be a big opening for Ubuntu. If MS does get rid of the desktop completely, a very bad mistake btw, Ubuntu could be a very liable alternative.

    If the pull off the cross platform integration successfully, we could see the rise of a new contender.
    I will never buy Apple or Android anything, ever, but, a Ubuntu based stuff is very worth looking at.
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    Microsoft's current directions could be the catalyst for Linux to really rise in the next few years, with not a lot of development work required and with a very large base of technically savvy people able to make the most of it and provide extensive support.


    It's possible. The oem's can't be too happy about the situation. Not just due to MS hardware adventure, but it doesn't make sense to rely on a single supplier for your desktop/laptop os. It might have worked ok for a while - not so much now.

    Interesting Ballmer is apparently insisting Dell use windows on the majority of their products (whatever that means ) if he kicks in to Mike Dell's buyback plans. If Ballmer was confident Dell and the others would actively choose windows - he wouldn't need to do that. It may make an oem loose alliance to get linux viable more tricky for them - if he can prevent Dell joining in.
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    The thing is, it often doesn't take all that much to cause a company to stumble severely or spiral into oblivion. Make the wrong decision and/or at the wrong time, and suddenly what seemed a great plan turns to fertiliser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    It's possible. The oem's can't be too happy about the situation. Not just due to MS hardware adventure, but it doesn't make sense to rely on a single supplier for your desktop/laptop os. It might have worked ok for a while - not so much now.

    Interesting Ballmer is apparently insisting Dell use windows on the majority of their products (whatever that means ) if he kicks in to Mike Dell's buyback plans. If Ballmer was confident Dell and the others would actively choose windows - he wouldn't need to do that. It may make an oem loose alliance to get linux viable more tricky for them - if he can prevent Dell joining in.
    The real problem is not so much MS, but the OEM's themselves.
    Does MS own these OEM"s? In a round about way you might be able to say yes, since windows is 98% (give or take, but lets be honest) of the business for the OEM's.

    Still, OEM's can do whatever they want to do, they are not actually bound to MS.
    You know, if they really tried, it might be possible for them to promote Linux more than they do.

    Could MS play hardball with the OEM's about it? Yes, but it's more of, can the OEM's survive without MS or an elevated price for the OS? I don't know myself. That is something the OEM's will have to ask themselves of.

    Don't get me wrong, I still think that there is a lot to do with Win8, and Blue may help, but it is a good direction.

    We really will have to see if Ubuntu can do any better.
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    I also wonder what Uncle Tim is thinking.

    They had good Xmas sales - sure. But where does he go from here?

    Android critters are all over the smartphone arena and the darn things will be overatking him soon in tablets.

    He can just try and hold them off, or he can go for growth.

    Unless he has something brand new ( and if he has - why would he be sitting on it ) - or he can extend the existing products into wider price areas.

    He is doing the latter and had some success with last year's pad at $399 and ipad min at even less.

    What would happen if he brought out an affordable macbook - $699 maybe.
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    "What would happen if he brought out an affordable macbook - $699 maybe." Then how would you explain a $1000 iPad, an $800 phone or a $1000 MacBook Air, Goodbye business model hello $50 share price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Is Microsoft changing the way it's advertising the Surface Pro, removing the MPI and replacing it with a desktop interface in ads?

    From this:

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    To this:

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    Have they realised that showing a start menu all the time is pretty lame.

    PSA: Microsoft Surface Pro now available in the US and Canada
    You do realize that's the HUGEST benefit and feature of the Surface Pro? And, you do realize that the Desktop in 8 is incredibly similar to the one 7, you know, the one that was touch optimized?
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