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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
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    My guess is that of the 800 members in my computer club, 700 do not do any 'applications'. They use email, skype and store a few pictures. Sometimes they look up something on the web. But their main use is to stay in touch with their children and grandchildren.

    For those people, Chromebook is probably an excellent alternative. It is cheap, simple and does those kinds of jobs. I think it will become more popular. People just have to discover it.
    What on earth do they need a Chromebook for they can use an $80 Android tablet.
    I have an Android tablet and set one up that cost $59. I agree, you can do a lot with the tablet and if you have a bluetooth keyboard, even typing is easy. But here we are talking about people (mostly ladies) that are 70 to 80 years old. They would have trouble reading from a 7" screen. And besides, there are too many functions in Android. That would confuse them.

    They need a 2 hour class to teach them how to crop a picture and forget such advanced apps like video editing or uploading videos to YouTube. A half a dozen icons or buttons is the most they can manage.

    I was teaching so called 'advanced' classes at the club. That was to e.g. show them how to create a data partition or make an image. It was too much for most of them. Only a few hardliners could follow.
    Take it easy on the poor old timers, God I'll be lucky to read a 24" screen when I reach that age. It's great to see them having a go, it must be a fulfilling task to help those oldies, I wish I had the patience. It's bad enough trying to teach my wife how to do banking and stuff like Quicken online. But funnily enough she seems to have grasped Windows 8 almost immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    That article was published in May 2011, almost 2 years ago. Has it taken off yet? Haven't read too much about it since then.
    I think it's safe to say it has taken off...
    Amazon's top selling laptop doesn't run Windows or Mac OS, it runs Linux | ZDNet
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Listen Ray you're too deep into Windows, you should join your friends and buy an iPad. When you get it pull out a USB thumb drive and put your 10mb photos and files on it. Do some work on your 10mb photos and then put them back on your USB. Then play some MKV files on your NAS or maybe put XBMC on it.

    And Ray you don't have to be a tech head to enjoy Windows 8 it's the simplest OS Microsoft has ever bought out, if my wife can learn it in 5 minutes anybody can do it in two.(I hope she never reads this, but it's true).
    What are you trying to say Bill? You should be on Android and Apple forums telling people to move over to Windows, no point blustering here to dedicated Windows users.
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  4. #24


    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    That article was published in May 2011, almost 2 years ago. Has it taken off yet? Haven't read too much about it since then.
    I think it's safe to say it has taken off...
    Amazon's top selling laptop doesn't run Windows or Mac OS, it runs Linux | ZDNet
    And here is another article.

    Google Chromebooks now in 2,000 schools, usage doubled in three months
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
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    The point here is that it doesn't matter how good some product is or what it's shortfalls may be, things are changing rapidly in how people use computers. Windows 8 could be the Rolls Royce of OSes, but most people simply don't care. I was at a 50th birthday party last night and the number of my friends that had bought an iPad this year truly amazed me, which is why I can't see Windows RT providing anything special to the ecosystem. It might excite some tech heads, but for the average Joe it's a case of 'Meh?'
    Listen Ray you're too deep into Windows, you should join your friends and buy an iPad. When you get it pull out a USB thumb drive and put your 10mb photos and files on it. Do some work on your 10mb photos and then put them back on your USB. Then play some MKV files on your NAS or maybe put XBMC on it.

    And Ray you don't have to be a tech head to enjoy Windows 8 it's the simplest OS Microsoft has ever bought out, if my wife can learn it in 5 minutes anybody can do it in two.(I hope she never reads this, but it's true).
    I disagree on simplest. I've had to do more end user training on 8 than the past few OSs. It's not impossible or very difficult, but I would not call it intuitive or simple.
    I think the hardest part is trying to teach people that already know Windows backwards, teaching new people is easy, it's not much harder than the iPad. Im pretty sure it wouldn't take any longer to teach someone Windows 8 than to use an iPad properly, about 90% of people would have no idea how to multitask and reset and uninstall Apps on an iPad, let alone create a folder or move an icon.
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    Nobody can learn any Windows in 5 minutes. I submit that it takes a lifetime - 60 million lines of code!!! Some are pretty good at it (e.g. Mark Russinovich), but few really know it all - if any.

    Knowing how to click on a few tiles is NOT knowing the OS. Someone who 'knows' Windows 8 after 5 minutes I would at least propose as a MVP - if not a Microsoft Fellow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Listen Ray you're too deep into Windows, you should join your friends and buy an iPad. When you get it pull out a USB thumb drive and put your 10mb photos and files on it. Do some work on your 10mb photos and then put them back on your USB. Then play some MKV files on your NAS or maybe put XBMC on it.

    And Ray you don't have to be a tech head to enjoy Windows 8 it's the simplest OS Microsoft has ever bought out, if my wife can learn it in 5 minutes anybody can do it in two.(I hope she never reads this, but it's true).
    What are you trying to say Bill? You should be on Android and Apple forums telling people to move over to Windows, no point blustering here to dedicated Windows users.
    If you're a dedicated Windows user why do you find it so important to find articles that would like to see the death of Microsoft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Nobody can learn any Windows in 5 minutes. I submit that it takes a lifetime - 60 million lines of code!!! Some are pretty good at it (e.g. Mark Russinovich), but few really know it all - if any.

    Knowing how to click on a few tiles is NOT knowing the OS.
    Well you know what I mean, same as using an iPad, turning it on and off, finding your programmes getting around the screens, running your programmes and then turning it off, just your basic stuff.

    But lets face it even getting into the Control panel and Device Manager is easier than before, just a mouse click away. A couple of hotspots and right mouse clicks, that's Windows 8.

    Naturally if you're going to get really technical it's going to get harder, but then so is every OS on any platform.
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    What you really mean is operating an appliance called Windows 8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    If you're a dedicated Windows user why do you find it so important to find articles that would like to see the death of Microsoft.
    Nothing of the sort, I'm trying to point out Microsoft's failings so that they don't become irrelevant. There is nothing worse than hubris, which Microsoft and some here are showing when it comes to Windows 8. As I keep saying, the underlying OS is very good, but the user interface is crap as far as desktops and, to a lesser, degree tablets is concerned.

    Far too many times I've seen people dance to the latest corporate mantra, because they are too afraid to speak up when there's a glaringly obvious problem. When I see something that's clearly going/gone astray, I say something. A lot of people don't like that, especially superiors who think their latest idea is the best thing ever; too bad, they'll get an opposing view whether they like it or not. Many a time they'll come back later and admit that I was correct.
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