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  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Granted, a Chromebook isn't a full-scale Windows or OS X-based machine -- far from it -- but given just how often our work is shifting to the web, Chrome OS is becoming dangerously close to "good enough" for most. Chalk it up to serendipity if you must, but Chrome OS is becoming more and more relevant with each passing day, as we're dealt far fewer offline-only apps and far more cloud-reliant ones.

    You've heard it before, and you'll hear it again: Chrome OS isn't "a real operating system." There's no question that it's different; it's the first major OS to launch without the ability to install local, desktop-based applications. Particularly for businesses, this could be a major deal-breaker. To solve that issue, Google has partnered with Citrix to create a new build of Citrix Receiver, a piece of software that should leave its existing beta trials and hit the public universe this summer.

    We saw a brief demo of the software used on a CR-48, and while the setup was obviously optimized, it worked shockingly well. A backend Windows server had a copy of Photoshop CS5 onboard, and the CR-48 was able to load it within a matter of seconds through Receiver. Not a light model -- we're talking about the full, bona fide version of Photoshop.
    Editorial: Google clarifies Chromebook subscriptions, might have just changed the industry

    The competition is really heating up across the board. In other discussions about Microsoft limiting the ability to install other OSes, it could further provide impetus for some to consider other choices.
    That article was published in May 2011, almost 2 years ago. Has it taken off yet? Haven't read too much about it since then.

    Jim

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  2. #12


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    My guess is that of the 800 members in my computer club, 700 do not do any 'applications'. They use email, skype and store a few pictures. Sometimes they look up something on the web. But their main use is to stay in touch with their children and grandchildren.

    For those people, Chromebook is probably an excellent alternative. It is cheap, simple and does those kinds of jobs. I think it will become more popular. People just have to discover it.
    What on earth do they need a Chromebook for they can use an $80 Android tablet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Peck View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Last night I downloaded a game from the Windows store on my Global account, told the wife about it and she said she would like it. Using my Global account on her PC she downloaded it for free, she played a few levels and started having problems with sound. To make a longer story short, I uninstalled it and reinstalled it and it worked fine and she was able to start on the level she left.

    It's this kind of simplicity and interaction that makes Windows 8 more exciting, and this was only a game, imagine the benefits to professionals and business people. When you count all the other benefits like Skydrive and Windows to Go this has to be the future.
    The Apple ecosystem has been able to do this for some time now. (No, I'm not an Apple fanboy, though I might be headed in that direction - I have 2 iPhones and 2 iPads now - one each for myself and the wife). The only devices that don't participate in this seamless experience are the PC's. Since I'm a developer (heavily invested in the Microsoft platform) it's just not likely I'll switch to Mac. (At least not completely and not soon). I guess you could say I "straddle the fence" between the two camps now. However I can say that the integration of my i-Devices into my PC ecosystem works well as far as it goes.

    Among the Apple devices we have, though, it's completely seamless. I buy a game, book, music, app on any of the devices and it's available immediately on the other 4. If I ever quit doing software development on the PC platform then maybe going Mac is the way to go as a retired person no longer developing software. I consider, all the time, buying a Macbook just for my lab here at the house to play with the idea.

    Microsoft is in serious catch-up mode on this. Unfortunately I don't like their present implementation so if I swing one way or the other at this point it's going to be in Apple's favor, I think.

    -Max
    I know you can do this on an iPad, I have 3 myself, and don't worry I've thought of leaving the Windows fold at times myself. The thing is NOW you can do all these things on a real computer and real tablets and even on a phone.

    As soon as I saw Windows 8, I immediately thought this is the future, maybe it's because I'm straddled across Android, IOS and Windows, 3 Ecosystems what a pain in the bum. Surely it's got be easier to have one.

    Maybe we'll only have one ecosystem, Apples, with its $1000 128GB iPod.
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    The point here is that it doesn't matter how good some product is or what it's shortfalls may be, things are changing rapidly in how people use computers. Windows 8 could be the Rolls Royce of OSes, but most people simply don't care. I was at a 50th birthday party last night and the number of my friends that had bought an iPad this year truly amazed me, which is why I can't see Windows RT providing anything special to the ecosystem. It might excite some tech heads, but for the average Joe it's a case of 'Meh?'
    Last edited by Ray8; 02 Feb 2013 at 21:19.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    My guess is that of the 800 members in my computer club, 700 do not do any 'applications'. They use email, skype and store a few pictures. Sometimes they look up something on the web. But their main use is to stay in touch with their children and grandchildren.

    For those people, Chromebook is probably an excellent alternative. It is cheap, simple and does those kinds of jobs. I think it will become more popular. People just have to discover it.
    What on earth do they need a Chromebook for they can use an $80 Android tablet.
    I have an Android tablet and set one up that cost $59. I agree, you can do a lot with the tablet and if you have a bluetooth keyboard, even typing is easy. But here we are talking about people (mostly ladies) that are 70 to 80 years old. They would have trouble reading from a 7" screen. And besides, there are too many functions in Android. That would confuse them.

    They need a 2 hour class to teach them how to crop a picture and forget such advanced apps like video editing or uploading videos to YouTube. A half a dozen icons or buttons is the most they can manage.

    I was teaching so called 'advanced' classes at the club. That was to e.g. show them how to create a data partition or make an image. It was too much for most of them. Only a few hardliners could follow.
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  6. #16


    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    That article was published in May 2011, almost 2 years ago. Has it taken off yet? Haven't read too much about it since then.

    Jim
    Lol! Thanks for pointing that out, Jim. I usually check the article date, but overlooked it this time. Good comment BTW.

    Ray, I think you to be grasping for straws here. The general population of consumers thinks Google is a search engine and nothing else but. Brain burned and tagged by what they started out as.

    They surely don't know that Android is a phone OS, but rather a model of a phone. Again, brain burned. And what's more is that they surely don't know what the Chrome OS is and probably couldn't care less. Chrome ain't happening any more than any other cloud-centric or cloud-based OS. At least by the general public.

    What are they brain burned with when they hear or read the name Microsoft? -> The good old familiar operating system that's preinstalled on various OEM machines and devices they've been buying for a long time.

    What the hell is OSX again?.....
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  7. #17


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    My guess is that of the 800 members in my computer club, 700 do not do any 'applications'. They use email, skype and store a few pictures. Sometimes they look up something on the web. But their main use is to stay in touch with their children and grandchildren.

    For those people, Chromebook is probably an excellent alternative. It is cheap, simple and does those kinds of jobs. I think it will become more popular. People just have to discover it.
    What on earth do they need a Chromebook for they can use an $80 Android tablet.
    Well, for me...nearly instant boot. Full keyboard, USB 3 ports, HDMI output, very thin, 11.3 screen, memory card support. I thought for 249 it was a decent product. Once I used it, it became my most used web surfing device at home.
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  8. #18


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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    That article was published in May 2011, almost 2 years ago. Has it taken off yet? Haven't read too much about it since then.

    Jim
    Lol! Thanks for pointing that out, Jim. I usually check the article date, but overlooked it this time. Good comment BTW.

    Ray, I think you to be grasping for straws here. The general population of consumers thinks Google is a search engine and nothing else but. Brain burned and tagged by what they started out as.

    They surely don't know that Android is a phone OS, but rather a model of a phone. Again, brain burned. And what's more is that they surely don't know what the Chrome OS is and probably couldn't care less. Chrome ain't happening any more than any other cloud-centric or cloud-based OS. At least by the general public.

    What are they brain burned with when they hear or read the name Microsoft? -> The good old familiar operating system that's preinstalled on various OEM machines and devices they've been buying for a long time.

    What the hell is OSX again?.....
    I didn't notice the date, as it was published in today's tech report on the site. But a quick Google shows that the Chromebooks, or Chrome, hasn't died off. I'm not suggesting that it's going to set the world on fire, but it is another wedge in OS options.

    The general public doesn't really care what the OS is; when they hear Android phone, all they understand is that it's capable of cool things and is not an iPhone. The same goes for Android tablets vs iPads. When many people hear Microsoft, the thoughts aren't always complementary. Also, people don't care about OSX, they understand Apple Mac.

    I'm not grasping at anything here, just pointing out that this is not an easy road for Microsoft. They need to tread carefully and not forget '...the good old familiar...'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    The point here is that it doesn't matter how good some product is or what it's shortfalls may be, things are changing rapidly in how people use computers. Windows 8 could be the Rolls Royce of OSes, but most people simply don't care. I was at a 50th birthday party last night and the number of my friends that had bought an iPad this year truly amazed me, which is why I can't see Windows RT providing anything special to the ecosystem. It might excite some tech heads, but for the average Joe it's a case of 'Meh?'
    Listen Ray you're too deep into Windows, you should join your friends and buy an iPad. When you get it pull out a USB thumb drive and put your 10mb photos and files on it. Do some work on your 10mb photos and then put them back on your USB. Then play some MKV files on your NAS or maybe put XBMC on it.

    And Ray you don't have to be a tech head to enjoy Windows 8 it's the simplest OS Microsoft has ever bought out, if my wife can learn it in 5 minutes anybody can do it in two.(I hope she never reads this, but it's true).
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  10. #20


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    The point here is that it doesn't matter how good some product is or what it's shortfalls may be, things are changing rapidly in how people use computers. Windows 8 could be the Rolls Royce of OSes, but most people simply don't care. I was at a 50th birthday party last night and the number of my friends that had bought an iPad this year truly amazed me, which is why I can't see Windows RT providing anything special to the ecosystem. It might excite some tech heads, but for the average Joe it's a case of 'Meh?'
    Listen Ray you're too deep into Windows, you should join your friends and buy an iPad. When you get it pull out a USB thumb drive and put your 10mb photos and files on it. Do some work on your 10mb photos and then put them back on your USB. Then play some MKV files on your NAS or maybe put XBMC on it.

    And Ray you don't have to be a tech head to enjoy Windows 8 it's the simplest OS Microsoft has ever bought out, if my wife can learn it in 5 minutes anybody can do it in two.(I hope she never reads this, but it's true).
    I disagree on simplest. I've had to do more end user training on 8 than the past few OSs. It's not impossible or very difficult, but I would not call it intuitive or simple.
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