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MS alum: Surface is doomed, Win8 is an "assault weapon"

  1. #11


    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post

    I'm not worried about the direction the pc goes, as long as choice remains an option an we're not forced to be online for all stuff we use. That's the story.
    The new office program can only be installed on line now, you purchase a key form a store then get online to install it unless you opt for the cloud base office then all is done online. Looks like that is where M$ is headed.

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  2. #12


    Lynnwood, WA
    Posts : 173
    Windows 8, Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post

    I'm not worried about the direction the pc goes, as long as choice remains an option an we're not forced to be online for all stuff we use. That's the story.
    The new office program can only be installed on line now, you purchase a key form a store then get online to install it unless you opt for the cloud base office then all is done online. Looks like that is where M$ is headed.
    Is there anything wrong with that? I don't know about you but if I have a lot of software titles, I don't want to keep track of all of my discs. Install once. Create Backup Image. Done. Move on with life.
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  3. #13


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post

    I'm not worried about the direction the pc goes, as long as choice remains an option an we're not forced to be online for all stuff we use. That's the story.
    The new office program can only be installed on line now, you purchase a key form a store then get online to install it unless you opt for the cloud base office then all is done online. Looks like that is where M$ is headed.
    That's why I'm not using the latest Office. Activation online is fine but whole software packages not.

    ----some long term issues----
    The SSD performance you probably want will be gone when you move the bottleneck on slow networks (at least I'm confronted with those) and slow cloud storage... don't tell me they gonna invest in SSD cloud storage just for you... nope... everyone has to be pleased with what he/she gets.
    -----------------------------

    I was born offline and I'll stay that way.
    Going online for me is just like taking a swim or go for a ride or fly, you don't do that constantly.

    I'm fine with Office 2010 and I'm not gonna upgrade.
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  4. #14


    Quote Originally Posted by JLyman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post

    I'm not worried about the direction the pc goes, as long as choice remains an option an we're not forced to be online for all stuff we use. That's the story.
    The new office program can only be installed on line now, you purchase a key form a store then get online to install it unless you opt for the cloud base office then all is done online. Looks like that is where M$ is headed.
    Is there anything wrong with that? I don't know about you but if I have a lot of software titles, I don't want to keep track of all of my discs. Install once. Create Backup Image. Done. Move on with life.
    Not a thing if you have deep pockets lets see newspapers want to charge for reading on line, ISP charges, and the list goes on and on. There are still some areas in this country where a land line for telephone is not possible.
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  5. #15


    Lynnwood, WA
    Posts : 173
    Windows 8, Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JLyman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post

    The new office program can only be installed on line now, you purchase a key form a store then get online to install it unless you opt for the cloud base office then all is done online. Looks like that is where M$ is headed.
    Is there anything wrong with that? I don't know about you but if I have a lot of software titles, I don't want to keep track of all of my discs. Install once. Create Backup Image. Done. Move on with life.
    Not a thing if you have deep pockets lets see newspapers want to charge for reading on line, ISP charges, and the list goes on and on. There are still some areas in this country where a land line for telephone is not possible.
    I get where you're going but your examples need some work There's no need to pay for news, anymore. ISPs are going to charge whether we like it or not, and if you can't get POTS, you probably don't have much of a need for Office... That's just my opinion.

    I might be a bit jaded since I'm in a position where I can get Office 13 on disc (by disc I mean burning my own).
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  6. #16


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JLyman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post

    The new office program can only be installed on line now, you purchase a key form a store then get online to install it unless you opt for the cloud base office then all is done online. Looks like that is where M$ is headed.
    Is there anything wrong with that? I don't know about you but if I have a lot of software titles, I don't want to keep track of all of my discs. Install once. Create Backup Image. Done. Move on with life.
    Not a thing if you have deep pockets lets see newspapers want to charge for reading on line, ISP charges, and the list goes on and on. There are still some areas in this country where a land line for telephone is not possible.

    Hi there

    ....." There are still some areas in this country where a land line for telephone is not possible......."

    Try mine - but our problem exists for obviously for different reasons than in the USA. !!

    That doesn't mean though that I need to be on the Internet to install programs etc.

    The whole "internet only" stuff will eventually KILL town centers, physical social gatherings and in general make us like the inhabitants of Solaria in Asimov's Foundation and Robot series where people lived totally alone and were 100% dependent on Robots.

    Solaria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I don't think I want to develop in that way at all - sounds a horrible future.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7. #17


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    That doesn't mean though that I need to be on the Internet to install programs etc.
    I don't think I want to develop in that way at all - sounds a horrible future.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    If M$ gets there way you will the APPS store is that way and now M$ office (no media just a key).
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  8. #18


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    Win 8.1 Pro


    Microsoft Office Home Premium 2013 Preview - Official Site

    Buy Microsoft Office and Microsoft Office 365 Online - Office.com

    Office 365 Home Premium Online | Monthly Subscription - Office.com

    Rumor has it that is will be about $100 a year.
    Also, you can install on 5 PC's
    Also, it does install on the system, it is not strictly cloud based, and you can work with Office while NOT connected to the internet.


    Is Internet access required for Office?

    Internet access is required to install and activate all the latest releases of Office suites and all Office 365 plans.

    Internet access is also required to manage, update, and access subscription versions of Office, including Office 365 Home Premium. You need to go online to www.office.com/myaccount to manage your subscription account. For example, if you want to install Office on another PC or device, or to change billing options. You need to connect to the Internet regularly to keep your version of Office up to date and to benefit from automatic upgrades.

    Internet connectivity is also required to access the Office 365 additional features such as SkyDrive and Skype world minutes.
    In other words: you can work with Office while NOT connected to the internet.
    Unless you need to access Skydrive etc, but you don't have to use that, you can save to you Hard Drive
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  9. #19


    Seattle, WA
    Posts : 117
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    I've been wondering this myself: How does the idea that Surface is an "assault weapon" relate to Zune's story? Microsoft's Zune HD was an outstanding piece of hardware, and unfortunately, it never made it to popularity. I don't know what to blame: Microsoft's marketing team? The product itself for just not provided what people wanted at the time (apps)?

    All this to say, I'd be saddened if Surface ended up hurting Microsoft and failing like Zune did. Only because I feel like it has so much potential (Zune did too). Microsoft ACTUALLY makes good hardware, too.
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  10. #20


    Lynnwood, WA
    Posts : 173
    Windows 8, Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by davidvkimball View Post
    I've been wondering this myself: How does the idea that Surface is an "assault weapon" relate to Zune's story? Microsoft's Zune HD was an outstanding piece of hardware, and unfortunately, it never made it to popularity. I don't know what to blame: Microsoft's marketing team? The product itself for just not provided what people wanted at the time (apps)?

    All this to say, I'd be saddened if Surface ended up hurting Microsoft and failing like Zune did. Only because I feel like it has so much potential (Zune did too). Microsoft ACTUALLY makes good hardware, too.
    Because currently in politics: "assault weapons" are scary and people don't want them around. Doesn't sound like too much of a leap, to me.
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