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How Oracle installs deceptive software with Java Updates

  1. #11


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    Windows 8


    The Java update will try to get you to install the Ask Toolbar. I haven't seen this with a fresh Java install.

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  2. #12


    Yep, lots of applications are also installing crapware, like the Ask toolbar when you install them. I just reinstalled Nero Burning Rom and it also tried to install Ask and several other pieces of crapware that you have to deselect a couple times. VDownloader, Piriform's CCleaner and Speccy, and others programs that I don't recall at the moment all try to install crapware. Nero has the unmitigated gaul to call the crapware "perequisites", which will lead many people to think thay MUST install it.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    I have had it ask me if i want norton active scan or McAfee as well on occasion. i have never seen it with a full download of the software only on update.
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  4. #14


    TonyB, Yes, I've seen those two also. Most older PC's I have worked on for people (family, friends, church) have several crappy AV programs installed on them, slowing performance to a standstill and the owner has no idea where the AV programs came from or that they're even on the PC. I think this is how it happens... and it's unethical and should be illegal.
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  5. #15


    Posts : 529
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Yes i agree i was at my sisters house in Seattle she asked me if i could look at her pc she said i think i have virus. But in reality she did not she had like 7 AV software on her pc i was OMG did you do this. she was like nope i wasn't aware. I told her i remove this and all be ok. I then told her next time look at the stuff you install.
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  6. #16


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB View Post
    Yes i agree i was at my sisters house in Seattle she asked me if i could look at her pc she said i think i have virus. But in reality she did not she had like 7 AV software on her pc i was OMG did you do this. she was like nope i wasn't aware. I told her i remove this and all be ok. I then told her next time look at the stuff you install.
    This is a very good example of what happens if you only click "next" when installing things.
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  7. #17


    Yes, the miscreants make the "add-ons" look like they need to be installed or put the place to deselect the add-on crapware in an unconspicouous place on the screen. It's hard to tell a non-techie exactly what they should and shouldn't install. My mother will not install ANYTHING unless I tell her it's OK. My father (retired detective) installs EVERYTHING and I have to clean things up!
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  8. #18


    Some of these things not only install the toolbars but they also reset your browser home page to the cr*pware site. You have to be very dilgent installing almost anything.

    Another pet peeve: software that drops an icon on your desktop (even with an upgrade) without bothering to ask. Adobe Reader is a big culprit: every time I update it I have to go back and delete the desktop icon it pus on my desktop. Does it bother checking whether I have the shortcut on my desktop already? Of course not!
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  9. #19


    Posts : 419
    Windows 8.1 x64


    Oracle will not stop bundling what critics describe as "crapware" and "foistware" with its Java installer anytime soon, a company representative intimated last week.

    The practice of offering up other software alongside Java updates, including emergency security updates to patch critical vulnerabilities, again came under fire last week as new reports surfaced of deceptive installation techniques.
    Oracle will continue to bundle 'crapware' with Java - Computerworld
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  10. #20


    Webster NY US
    Posts : 325
    Win 7 / Win 8


    OK, here's the one that that pops up when I am doing the direct-from-Oracle java update. This came just before the "3 Billion Devices Run Java" pop-up.

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    You just have to watch carefully and not just click "Next... Next..."
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