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Lenovo entering 'PC plus' era, CEO says

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    [QUOTE=Ray8;176267]
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Go back and have a look at some of my posts Ray.
    I'll use one of your sayings Ray, you just don't understand.
    Do you think that every time I post something, it's about you?
    Funny, but you mentioned my name.

    Anyway Ray, why do you think I've been saying I'm excited about Windows 8 and it's possibilities and all the different machines. The PC plus era is exactly why I'm excited about Windows 8, no other reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Funny, but you mentioned my name.

    Anyway Ray, why do you think I've been saying I'm excited about Windows 8 and it's possibilities and all the different machines. The PC plus era is exactly why I'm excited about Windows 8, no other reason.
    I didn't mention your name in my post that you quoted.

    These devices have been effectively on the market for years, I've been using just such a touch tablet going on two years now with Windows 7. But Windows 8 doesn't add any startling new things, in my case it partly misses the mark. I can fully appreciate the possibilities that these devices can provide, which is exactly why I bought my tablet. Also, Microsoft is simply following on from what they started with XP Tablet PC Edition, which came with my Fujitsu P1610. But they went the wrong way trying to play catch with Android and Apple by introducing RT first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Funny, but you mentioned my name.

    Anyway Ray, why do you think I've been saying I'm excited about Windows 8 and it's possibilities and all the different machines. The PC plus era is exactly why I'm excited about Windows 8, no other reason.
    I didn't mention your name in my post that you quoted.

    These devices have been effectively on the market for years, I've been using just such a touch tablet going on two years now with Windows 7. But Windows 8 doesn't add any startling new things, in my case it partly misses the mark. I can fully appreciate the possibilities that these devices can provide, which is exactly why I bought my tablet. Also, Microsoft is simply following on from what they started with XP Tablet PC Edition, which came with my Fujitsu P1610. But they went the wrong way trying to play catch with Android and Apple by introducing RT first.
    Trouble is Ray no one was really taking any notice with Windows 7, probably because it wasn't designed for touch, now people are taking notice and a lot of people are frothing at the bit.

    Is it all too little too late, I hope not, because I want to see the possibilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Trouble is Ray no one was really taking any notice with Windows 7, probably because it wasn't designed for touch, now people are taking notice and a lot of people are frothing at the bit.

    Is it all too little too late, I hope not, because I want to see the possibilities.
    If Windows 7 wasn't designed for touch, how come I can use touch to do everything that I can in Windows 8 on the same tablet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Trouble is Ray no one was really taking any notice with Windows 7, probably because it wasn't designed for touch, now people are taking notice and a lot of people are frothing at the bit.

    Is it all too little too late, I hope not, because I want to see the possibilities.
    If Windows 7 wasn't designed for touch, how come I can use touch to do everything that I can in Windows 8 on the same tablet.
    I'd say its got a lot to do with ease of use and precision, Metro is very easy to use, you can just push screens out of the way. Also I'd say Windows 8 would use less battery power, especially in Metro or RT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I'd say its got a lot to do with ease of use and precision, Metro is very easy to use, you can just push screens out of the way. Also I'd say Windows 8 would use less battery power, especially in Metro or RT.
    I can do exactly with my current tablet, with either version of Windows. For people who do not need/want the apps, how they work is irrelevant. Battery power with the Surface Pro will be no different to that of most tablets running Atom or iX processors and may well be worse than many notebooks/laptops because of battery size limitations. Running apps will not save on battery power, as it's the processor, graphics etc that consumes the power.
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    . . .another post going in the wrong direction. Please people try to stay on topic. . .
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    Hi all

    Now now children -- let's be nice and say on topic.

    Lenovo already had their "Twist" type of PC's which were part tablet part PC.

    In any case what IS a tablet and what is a PC.

    In the case of a workstation or server blades there isn't any argument.

    However looking at say the new HP ENVY series where you can remove the screen (similar but better IMO to Lenovo's "Current Twist type PC"s) and it works as a full blown tablet -- the boundaries get very blurred.

    One could argue that a Surface PRO with a keyboard isn't anything other than a "Collapsible" PC. What can't it do that a PC can do - especially if it's fitted with decent RAM and a powerful processor.

    Lenovo realized this a while ago --I am looking forward to a slightly better engineered version rather than the current twist models.

    People will still need "classical desktop" GUI's for some while yet --especially if they do a lot of typing --in no way can a touch screen operate quicker when creating large text documents than by using a keyboard ==and even the most amateur "One fingered" typist can type far quicker than they can write using a pen device.

    Devices are morphing into all sorts of form factors but they are still essentially computers.

    I predict eventually a small tablet like device being able to project stunning 3-d holograms -- wouldn't this be great for watching sport or movies -- or even for "face to face long distance communications". CPU power and Internet bandwidth would need to be orders of magnitude better than now --but remember Moore's Law is still valid.

    Combined devices are the way of the future -- I'd buy a powerful "Ultrabook" in a shot if I could remove a THIN lid and use it as a tablet when I needed to --saves buying TWO devices as well.

    Lenovo (and even Ms) are on the right track here whereas the good "Old Fruit Company" seems to have missed the boat with this type of approach. Ipads are rapidly becoming to be seen as "Yesterdays Market" while companies like Samsung are starting to fill the void with some very nice products -- and Lenovo too.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Hi Jimbo,

    The way I see it is a tablet is a PC except in a different form. My first Mac (1987) though it needed to be plugged in was designed to be mobile. Thus, tablets are also designed to be mobile computers. Though fairly basic tablets can do just about anything that a PC can do (blue tooth key boards stretch the imagination), thus the reason people are looking at them as a replacement not so much for a desktop computer system but laptops.
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    "traditional desktop environment is valid and must be supported." If only Lenovo would understand that and give support but they do not, over at their forum are quesitons upons questions not being addressed, no windows 8 drivers forth coming though people need them in the worst way. You cannot get help from phone support, if they promise to call back they do not, but sales, now that is another thing, those phones get answered quickly I am told.
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