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Windows 8 uncertainty blamed for decline in PC sales

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there

    The title of the thread says it all.

    It really is a whole load of "Bovine Scatology" or for those whose literary skills are somewhat challenged here's another way of saying the same thing. (Scr shot).

    PC sales are in terminal decline for all sorts of reasons --W8 has NOTHING to do with it -- people can do all sorts of things on OTHER devices that they USED to use a PC for --it's inivitable. PC sales won't diminish to ZERO but they will certainly diminish hugely in future.

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    I can't wait for the prices to get cheap enough for everyone to run a mini-data center out of their PC and basically manage their own cloud :>.

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    Jimbo
    Windows 8 has NOTHING to do with it

    What makes you think that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Jimbo
    Windows 8 has NOTHING to do with it

    What makes you think that?
    Hi there
    I thought I've said it in the threads -- PC's are much less used these days as people use other devices for Internet, email, multi-media etc instead so the volume of PC sales would decline WHATEVER OS is installed on them --nothing to do with W8.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there

    The title of the thread says it all.

    It really is a whole load of "Bovine Scatology" or for those whose literary skills are somewhat challenged here's another way of saying the same thing. (Scr shot).

    PC sales are in terminal decline for all sorts of reasons --W8 has NOTHING to do with it -- people can do all sorts of things on OTHER devices that they USED to use a PC for --it's inivitable. PC sales won't diminish to ZERO but they will certainly diminish hugely in future.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I can't wait for the prices to get cheap enough for everyone to run a mini-data center out of their PC and basically manage their own cloud :>.
    Hi there
    we are talking here about individual users -- a mini-data center is a TOTALLY different idea and about as far removed from typical casual users as its possible to be --in any case a lot of these data centers are actually server "Farms" using a load of "Blade servers" -- not by any stretch of the imagination a "normal PC".

    Blade server - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. #365


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post

    Hi there
    I thought I've said it in the threads -- PC's are much less used these days as people use other devices for Internet, email, multi-media etc instead so the volume of PC sales would decline WHATEVER OS is installed on them --nothing to do with W8.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I think we're at cross purposes now. Many folks did not need a desktop/laptop for their e-mailing, casual browsing, facebook, etc but that's all that was available at the time. So now they've got a choice whether it's the fruit company, android, surface or even a smartphone and that fits their requirements.

    Looking at my local PC superstore all they were offering were laptops with Win8 installed. No touch screen. For those looking to replace what they've already got (in the laptop world) simply to acquire something newer then I think Win8 would have been a negative. Combined with the 'expert quality' of staff trying to sell these laptops then it would have been a no go for many.

    Okay you can bomb Win8 back to looking like the OS folks are familiar with via classic shell or what have you but just how many of these store 'experts' would have known that. So in this area I think Win8 has been a drag on sales especially as there are already some reports about buyers requiring a 'downgrade' to Win7.

    We live in interesting times and the next few months, when reliable sales figures are around will tell more of a story. Sure the economic situation doesn't help but neither does Win8 imo. It's not a must have OS.
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    We live in interesting times and the next few months, when reliable sales figures are around will tell more of a story. Sure the economic situation doesn't help but neither does Windows 8 imo. It's not a must have OS.
    I think it worse than that.

    I think it is actually putting people off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    We live in interesting times and the next few months, when reliable sales figures are around will tell more of a story. Sure the economic situation doesn't help but neither does Windows 8 imo. It's not a must have OS.
    I think it worse than that.

    I think it is actually putting people off.
    Well just maybe MS will be earning a few extra $$'s with their app downloads and cloud computing but if their existing user base does not adopt 8 in respectable numbers then the penny will drop. Just maybe then 8 will be available with choice at install time assuming the speed benefits can be maintained.

    There does of course also exist the scenario that if the start menu was applied with many of the normal Win7 options then those speed benefits would no longer exist but I'm not that well versed in all the underlying programming behind 8.
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    mart

    if their existing user base does not adopt 8 in respectable numbers
    It doesn't appear to be happening.

    maybe then 8 will be available with choice
    Maybe.
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    What a load of drivel


    From another thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Another story on the death of the PC.

    Desktop PCs less popular than ever
    "U.S. desktop PC shipments are down 40% in the past decade ..."

    The graph doesn't support the headline.

    PC shipments are actually up 100%+ over the decade.
    2002: 14.2M units
    2012: 30.6M units

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbmek View Post
    Hey, here is the latest. Just got an email from my domain hosts, Hostgator (an american company). Thery have been ORDERED by the EU, to start charging VAT for EU residents at the country VAT rate, from the next bill.

    I have copied this to a new thread in diff section
    They can only charge you VAT if they are VAT Registered. Ask them for their VAT Registration # and country registered.
    Years ago, instead of introducing a Financial Assets Conversion Tax, which would have taxed the people who were ultimately responsible for the GFC, the (Conservative) Government introduced a Goods and Services Tax, which was offset by reducing/eliminating taxes that were (mostly) paid by the Rich.

    Now Retailers are b*******, because people are buying goods online and any sale below $1K is GST free.

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisa View Post
    I can't wait for the prices to get cheap enough for everyone to run a mini-data center out of their PC and basically manage their own cloud :>.
    Agreed.
    A personal "Private Cloud" for the mobile toys (phones and tablets).
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    Jimbo
    volume of PC sales would decline
    Possibly - but why do you think the os has no effect whatsoever.

    Don't you think if it was an os people were gagging to have, it would stimulate the market - not necessarily into vast growth, but at least the decline would not be very great.

    Conversely:

    Don't you think if it was an os a lot of people absolutely do not want - then that would make the decline greater?

    Just because you think there are several factors - does it make sense to ignore the ones you are in control of?


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Jimbo
    Windows 8 has NOTHING to do with it

    What makes you think that?
    Hi there
    I thought I've said it in the threads -- PC's are much less used these days as people use other devices for Internet, email, multi-media etc instead so the volume of PC sales would decline WHATEVER OS is installed on them --nothing to do with W8.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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