Windows 8 and 8.1 Forums


Windows 8 uncertainty blamed for decline in PC sales

  1. #111


    Posts : 993
    Windows 8 pro Retail


    Coke Robot, my mistake, didn't state that right. What I had meant overall Christmas sales 2011 -vs- 2012, and there has been a huge drop over the 2 Christmas seasons.

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  2. #112


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Coke Robot, my mistake, didn't state that right. What I had meant overall Christmas sales 2011 -vs- 2012, and there has been a huge drop over the 2 Christmas seasons.
    Hi there
    not only of PC's but almost anything -- even Supermarkets selling basic foodstuffs had very poor XMAS 2012 sales -- and this was for necessities not items people could do without.

    I don't think that comparing Sales of PC's in 2011 with 2012 is a valid statistic by itself without looking at other factors such as people's disposable income , do other more convenient devices do the job, do I actually NEED a new PC etc.

    PC sales will decline whatever OS is on them -- there are other devices around now that do a lot of the simpler stuff people used to do on a PC -- tablets, phones etc.

    Hardware is good these days, you don't need to upgrade so often and sales always decline once the market has matured -- doesn't matter what the product is - upgrades and replacements will never equal the first flourish when devices are new and few people have them.

    You could have these devices powered by "Mickey Mouse OS" - and they'd still fly off the shelves --then it would be interesting to see if the title of this thread would be "Mickey Mouse OS causing drop in PC sales".

    Reading a lot of statistics quoted by people on both the W7 and W8 Forum leads me to conclude that I really ought to do a tutorial on Statistics 101 in the tutorials. !!

    You must look at ALL the available data not just say PC sales are declining and choose a single event which probably has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the original statement and blame that event on the sales decline.

    "==> BAK 2 SKOOL 4 U".

    Cheers
    jimbo
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  3. #113


    Posts : 835
    Win 8.1 Pro


    Yeah, and statistics can be manipulated to show whatever you want them to.
    Statistics are only as good as the data, research and the person doing them.
    If any one of those produces lazy, incorrect or manipulated data, then it's all bogus.
    One must always take statistics with a grain or more of salt.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #114


    Now Microsoft blames PC makers for Windows 8 crash landing.

    Microsoft blasts PC makers: It's YOUR fault Windows 8 crash landed ? The Register
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  5. #115


    Yeah, it's the pc makers fault that people are staying away from w8, lmao.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  6. #116


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by DooRules View Post
    Yeah, it's the pc makers fault that people are staying away from w8, lmao.
    Hi there
    you could argue it's "Customers who are staying away from PC's".

    Honestly it doesn't matter WHAT OS is on a PC -- if you want a PC you can install what you like on it.

    Bog standard PC sales are declining --FACT and it's NOTHING to do with WINDOWS or the weather or your Grandma's cat.

    There are OTHER devices that do the job more conveniently for some applications so a lot don't really need a PC any more.

    TV's now can connect directly to Video on demand services so even a last bastion of PC use for watching Films / DVD's isn't needed so much any more.

    I don't think I've used a computer at home for watching a movie for AGES now -- TV can play via video on demand or via "Network Disk" where you can use all sorts of different hardware for multi-media streaming without a computer anywhere in sight.

    I'm even replying to the thread on my Samsung smart phone.

    (I still use a PC -- but when I'm not at work my use is far far less than even one year ago).

    Cheers
    jimbo
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  7. #117


    Posts : 85
    Windows 10 64-bit/ Windows 8.1 64-bit


    Again, I think this very much has to do with the whole; people don't necessarily buy new computers every year. My new desktop was a must buy. My old (three years old in April) computer's HDD was too small, graphics and memory were inadequate and for what I needed it to do, it just couldn't and the price of upgrading it exceeded the price of a new desktop. But then, I've passed on that Windows 7 Compaq desktop onto my parents, so they don't have to buy a new one. People aren't as wasteful as you'd think. I think PC sales will go up when people are ready to replace theirs. It has nothing to do with Windows 8. Which although awkward to use, is getting more familiar for me and I’m near the end of my third week. I had the same problem with Windows 7 and I ended up loving it. I liked Vista and I don't get my rose tinted glasses for XP because I disliked it by the end for its limitations and issues. Operating systems come and go- people replace their computers when they are good and ready. Not because any operating system says jump. Tablets just aren't capable of what desktops are and the same goes for laptops/notebooks although they are stronger than tablets.

    Oh, and my 'mobile' uses for my laptop are in blackouts and when I have to go somewhere. It's a popularity trend, one with the life about as long as until real computer viruses sink their teeth in or some other issue causes tablets and smartphones to lose their shiny veneer.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  8. #118


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    I do think OEMs do have responsibility here as for one, touch enabled PCs are usually already expensive ultrabooks, so the cost is 1,000+. There are some touch laptops, but they're still rather costly. Touch AIO PCs have been said to be selling well, mostly I bet since they're 23 inch touch screens with decent specs over a 1,000 dollar touch ultabook. Considering that half of all new PCs aren't touch capable, it makes sense. That, along with a really high cost for tablet PCs of around an asking price of a solid 1,000 dollars. Why those OEMs couldn't take current lower end hardware certified for 7 and put a touch display is beyond me.

    It seems that the price they set is one that can be argued that you're getting two in one for a price just under buying those two separate devices. People just want affordable right now over an arm and leg.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  9. #119


    Posts : 993
    Windows 8 pro Retail


    labeeman JUST read that! Microsoft has it's NERVE!! Why wasn't their new tablet (Microsoft Surface) released for this past Xmas eh?
    DAMN talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  10. #120


    Posts : 1,770
    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Ask not what Windows 8 can do for you, but what you can do for Windows 8.


    Manufacturers have responded. Funny about that. This reflects exactly what I've been saying about Windows 8 and platform specifications.

    But the computer makers are fighting back: they claimed that if they’d followed Microsoft’s hardware requirements and ramped up production, they'd have ended up building a lot of high-end expensive slabs that consumers didn’t understand nor want.

    The Reg
    has learned Microsoft provided clear and specific guidance on the hardware it wanted inside any machine running Windows 8 so as to show off and utilise the operating system's new capabilities, such as the touch-driven interface. Microsoft also gave its advice on the mix of high and low-end form-factors manufacturers should build, namely Ultrabooks, hybrids and simple laptops.
    Windows 8 should have worked on any current specification tablet/laptop and, again, manufacturers question the point of RT.

    Also, release the Surface only in the US/Canada and there'll be enough reviews, good and bad, that any subsequent worldwide release will effectively be a flop. Other manufacturers would have taken the kudos, if any, and the Surface will be another me too device.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

Page 12 of 38 FirstFirst ... 2101112131422 ... LastLast
Windows 8 uncertainty blamed for decline in PC sales
Related Threads
Source A Guy
Analyst: Windows 8.1 Won?t Stop Microsoft?s Decline
Read more at source: Hard drive prices - and innovation - decline | ZDNet
Eight Forums Android App Eight Forums IOS App Follow us on Facebook